From: james.m.gibson@gmail.com   
      
   On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 10:15:23 AM UTC-5, Con Reeder, unhyphenated   
   American wrote:   
   > On 2023-12-05, JGibson  wrote:    
   > > On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 9:33:35 PM UTC-5, unclejr wrote:    
   > >> On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 6:59:01 AM UTC-6, JGibson wrote:    
   > >> > On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 2:40:19 AM UTC-5, RoddyMcCorley wrote:    
   > >> > > They got hosed by the committee. Absolutely no justification unless   
   it    
   > >> > > is "we must have an SEC team." And even that does not work.    
   > >> > >    
   > >> > > The CFP cmte has too much subjective leeway to begin with.    
   > >> > >    
   > >> > > Go back to a fairly objective formula like the BCS had.    
   > >> > I did go and try to find the six computers that the BCS used. Sagarin   
   no longer has his "score-free" formula available, but I think the others have   
   their equivalents still. I know Don does his NOTBCS rankings, which I think   
   use more computers.    
   > >> >    
   > >> > I find the following:    
   > >> > Colley: 1. Washington, 2. Michigan, 3. Texas, 4. Alabama, 5. Florida   
   State    
   > >> > Billingsley: 1. Washington, 2. Michigan, 3. Florida State, 4. Alabama,   
   5. Georgia    
   > >> > Massey BCS: 1. Washington, 2. Michigan, 3. Alabama. 4. Texas, 5.   
   Florida State    
   > >> > Anderson & Hester: 1. Washington, 2. Michigan, 3. Florida State, 4.   
   Ohio State, 5. Alabama    
   > >> > Wolfe: 1. Washington, 2. Michigan, 3. Florida State, 4. Alabama, 5.   
   Texas    
   > >> > Sagarin*: 1. Michigan, 2. Oregon, 3. Ohio State, 4. Texas, 5. Penn   
   State    
   > >> Sagarin is borked. ($1)    
   > >    
   > > Yeah, that's why that version got banned in the BCS days, and they    
   > > made him use a score-free version. But the version he had to use in    
   > > those days no longer seems to exist.   
   > Sagarin appears to have given up the biz, as he has yet to release   
   basketball    
   > ratings this year.    
   >    
      
   Hmmm....  He was doing college football still, so I'm not sure what happened   
   here.  Everyone's gone to Pomeroy for college basketball, I think.  But we   
   don't have an equivalent of Pomeroy for college football.  I know we have   
   S&P+, FPI, and FEI but none    
   really get at similar data as Pomeroy or have the equivalent sub-breakdowns   
   that Pomeroy has.   
      
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