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   JGibson to The NOTBCS Guy   
   Re: FSU   
   05 Dec 23 09:00:17   
   
   From: james.m.gibson@gmail.com   
      
   On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 11:35:39 AM UTC-5, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:   
   > > > > > Go back to a fairly objective formula like the BCS had.    
   > > > > I did go and try to find the six computers that the BCS used. Sagarin   
   no longer has his "score-free" formula available, but I think the others have   
   their equivalents still. I know Don does his NOTBCS rankings, which I think   
   use more computers.   
   > Correct - I use whatever computers are available on the Massey composite   
   site at around 6:30 PM Eastern on Monday (although I do tend to wait until the   
   Friday after the championship game for the final rankings, just to be sure I   
   can get as many as I    
   can).    
   >    
   > Speaking of which - no, there are none that have Georgia and FSU ranked 1   
   and 2, and even if there were, having any of the playoff teams beat two of the   
   others in the same time period could very easily vault that team above FSU, so   
   if FSU wants to    
   invent its own national championship (and that assumes it can beat Georgia in   
   the first place), it has some work to do.   
   > > > > I find the following:    
   > > > > Colley: 1. Washington, 2. Michigan, 3. Texas, 4. Alabama, 5. Florida   
   State    
   > > > > Billingsley: 1. Washington, 2. Michigan, 3. Florida State, 4. Alabama,   
   5. Georgia    
   > > > > Massey BCS: 1. Washington, 2. Michigan, 3. Alabama. 4. Texas, 5.   
   Florida State    
   > > > > Anderson & Hester: 1. Washington, 2. Michigan, 3. Florida State, 4.   
   Ohio State, 5. Alabama    
   > > > > Wolfe: 1. Washington, 2. Michigan, 3. Florida State, 4. Alabama, 5.   
   Texas    
   > > > > Sagarin*: 1. Michigan, 2. Oregon, 3. Ohio State, 4. Texas, 5. Penn   
   State    
   > > > Sagarin is borked. ($1)    
   > > Yeah, that's why that version got banned in the BCS days, and they made   
   him use a score-free version. But the version he had to use in those days no   
   longer seems to exist.   
   > Also correct - Sagarin stopped his score-free one when he no longer needed   
   it.    
   > I think one of the others - I want to say Billingsley - no longer has its   
   score-free version either.    
   > I know Colley is still score-free, and I think Massey's is as well.    
      
   Massey's main page (when it comes up, having trouble with that today) has his   
   score-based predictive rankings, but he still has his Massey BCS rankings   
   available on the composite ranking list.   
      
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