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   JE Corbett to j...@mich.com   
   Re: Who was the idiot(s) who decided the   
   06 Dec 23 07:15:19   
   
   From: jecorbett4@gmail.com   
      
   On Wednesday, December 6, 2023 at 9:22:45 AM UTC-5, j...@mich.com wrote:   
   > On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 13:43:58 -0800 (PST), JE Corbett    
   wrote:    
   >    
   > >On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 4:28:56?PM UTC-5, Corky wrote:    
   > >> On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 12:05:42?PM UTC-6, JE Corbett wrote:   
   > >> > On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 10:19:19?AM UTC-5, Con Reeder,   
   unhyphenated American wrote:    
   > >> > > On 2023-12-04, The NOTBCS Guy  wrote:    
   >    
   >    
   > >> > Using player availability is as dumb a principle as saying you are   
   selecting the four best teams. Every team loses players    
   > >> > to injury. The phrase "next man up" has become a mantra in college   
   football. It is a way of saying losing a key player is not    
   > >> > an excuse for failing to reach your goals.   
   > Losing the quarterback is not just losing "a" player, it's losing the most   
   important player by far. FSU backup QBs are far from plug and play    
   > and FSU is nowhere as good now as they were.   
   > >That shouldn't be the criteria for selecting the teams. FSU earned the   
   right to compete. They were one of the three most    
   > >accomplished teams in the country along with Michigan and Washington.   
   > What about Liberty? Don't they have as much claim as FSU? Didn't they do   
   everything FSU did and go 13-0?    
   > How do we choose between FSU and Liberty? Why aren't you concerned about the   
   fact that Liberty got hosed?   
   > >They did more than Alabama, Texas, or Georgia.    
   > >They went undefeated and won a Power 5 championship. None of the other   
   three can say that.   
   > No, but the others can say they played top ten teams. Alabama played two top   
   6 teams. FSU didn't play a single top team. They went undefeated    
   > against an easy schedule. Big whoop.   
   > >    
   > >They were barely able to score on a team that lost to Kentucky.    
   > >    
   > >Alabama needed a miracle to beat a team that got rolled by New Mexico   
   State. If you are going to downgrade FSU for    
   > >barely beating Louisville, shouldn't you do the same for Alabama for barely   
   beating Auburn?   
   > Alabama was just going through the motions against a mediocre team and   
   looking ahead to Georgia. Playing such a sloppy game    
   > indeed almost cost them. The play itself was not a miracle, it was a 1st   
   string quarterback making a pass typical at this level of college.    
   > The miracle was the prevent defense called by Auburn. The quarterback knew   
   from the start of the play they likely had a TD.    
   > That's the point, FSU cannot make plays like this one anymore and they   
   proved it in the last few games.    
      
   Why should we only grade a team by their offense. Why shouldn't a stifling   
   defense be given the same weight as a high   
   powered offense. Special teams matter too. How you win a game shouldn't   
   matter. What matters is that you win. Neither   
   Alabama nor FSU was impressive in their rivalry game but only one got dinged   
   for it by the committee.   
   >    
   > Anyway, if you knew anything about football, you'd know Alabama-Auburn is   
   not a normal game. Records abd rankings mean little.    
   > The emotions and motivation are way, way differrent than those in a game   
   aginst Louisville.   
      
   FSU's rivalry game is with Florida, the last regular season of the game. That   
   rivalry is just as fierce and means as much to the players as the Iron Bowl   
   does to Alabama and Auburn. Neither Alabama nor FSU was overly impressive in   
   their rivalry game   
   but both managed to win against a mediocre opponent. Alabama beat the better   
   team in their conference championship but   
   FSU won by a larger margin. Using the strength of record metric, FSU had a   
   better season than Alabama and that is what    
   should matter. Not whether feathers would be ruffled if the SEC got shut out   
   of the playoff.    
      
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