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   Message 209,069 of 209,580   
   michael anderson to JGibson   
   Re: Florida State 1993   
   09 Dec 23 16:08:57   
   
   From: mianderson79@gmail.com   
      
   On Wednesday, December 6, 2023 at 10:51:40 AM UTC-6, JGibson wrote:   
   > Forget the fact that they lost to Notre Dame during the season but ended up   
   ranked ahead of Notre Dame for the national title at the end. Why did they get   
   chosen for the Orange Bowl against Nebraska (where FSU was an 18.5 point   
   favorite but barely won)    
   when both Nebraska and West Virginia (who won the conference that included   
   both Miami and Notre Dame-beater Boston College) were undefeated?   
      
   Look, I don't agree with the decision to not take FSU this year.  but 1993(and   
   the underlying thought process and reasons for the decision)   
   and this year's decision are entirely compatible and logically consistent.   
      
   In 1993 due to the overall body of work of FSU(compared to ND and WVU) the   
   decision was made to put them in that game and then vote them #1 based on   
   that(and the vote wasn't even close, nor should it have been).  They felt   
   those things overshadowed the 1    
   loss.   
      
   In 2023 the committee focused mostly on eye test without their qb and then   
   secondarily overall body of work(best win LSU probably vs an alabama best win   
   that is.....well as humongous as it gets) to keep FSU out(and put bama and   
   texas in). They felt those    
   things, like in 1993, overshadowed the loss difference.   
      
   Also I was old enough to remember 1993 well.  That was *not* controversial at   
   all at the time and there was very little debate.  Everyone acknowledged that   
   ND won the hth in a close game in south bend(and yes it was a close game at   
   the end.....perhaps if    
   ND had played the 4th qtr like they did the first 3 it wouldnt have been a   
   close game and they may have garnered more consideration), but the   
   *overwhelming* advantage FSU had over ND across the board when looking at the   
   rest of the schedule and results    
   more than made up for that.     
      
   note that I do believe HTH has value and in many cases should be a deciding   
   factor, but certainly not in 93 when I didn't think the resumes were very   
   similar.  And the voters overwhelmingly felt that way too.     
      
   As for WVU.....lol.....I mean c'mon, anyone who watched 30 seconds of what SS   
   did to them boys from morgantown knows WVU never should have been near a   
   national title game.     
      
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