From: jimbr...@yahoo.com   
      
   On Saturday, December 16, 2023 at 6:47:21 AM UTC-6, JE Corbett wrote:   
   > I know this is supposed to be about college football, but I can't find a   
   similar    
   > newsgroup for pro football and I saw someone else post about the NFL here,    
   > so I will say this here too..    
   >    
   > First of all, let me say I'm a Chiefs fan. That said, the offsides call on   
   Toney    
   > that negated one of the greatest plays of the year was 100% the right call.    
   > I don't blame the official. I blame Toney. The official did his job right.   
   Toney    
   > did not. Chiefs nation is saying it was a ticky tack call and that Toney was    
   > only a few inches offsides. No, he wasn't. He was at least two feet offside.    
   > A lot fans don't realize there are actually two lines of scrimmage, on for    
   > offense, and one for the defense. The O-line of scrimmage runs through the    
   > back point of the ball and the D-line of scrimmage runs through the front    
   > point of the ball. The area between those two lines is what is called the    
   > neutral zone. Technically, only the center is allowed to be in the neutral   
   zone    
   > at the snap because he has to put his hands on the ball. From what I have    
   > observed, officials don't flag wideouts for putting a foot in the neutral   
   zone    
   > and if a D-lineman has his head in the neutral zone, those fouls will    
   > generally get a warning before a flag is thrown. It's when a player lines up    
   > on the other team's side of the line of scrimmage a flag will be thrown    
   > without warning. If one ignores the blue line CBS superimposed and looks    
   > only at the position of the ball and Toney, he was clearly offside. The   
   front    
   > of the ball was a foot outside the 49 yard line and Toney's foot was on the    
   > 49 yard line. A defender in press coverage could have actually put his hands    
   > on Toney before the snap without being offside. If that sort of alignment   
   was    
   > allowed at any point in the game, it would become chaotic. As much as it    
   > hurt the Chiefs, it was the proper call.   
      
      
   He absolutely wasn't two feet off sides.  His toe was definitely on the line   
   tho.  They were just upset that it negated such a great play.  Emotions will   
   do that.  No reason for Toney not to know wtf he was doing tho.   
      
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