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|    JE Corbett to michael anderson    |
|    Re: Washington players bail out their bo    |
|    06 Jan 24 04:56:45    |
      From: jecorbett4@gmail.com              On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 5:51:02 PM UTC-5, michael anderson wrote:       > So I agree about the 3rd down pass. But the next possession is a *little       trickier*. I agree that if you're not going to kneel, you should at least run       outside or do something different than just have the rb dive into the line. I       mean c'mon you're not        going to get the first down like that, so why try.......so it's kind of like       the worst of both worlds there. Of course a run play that gets a back or wr on       the edge is also more likely to draw a flag, which also stops clock.        >        > I think given everything I probably would have kneeled in that situation,       just because I'm more afraid of a holding call or something than an injury.       But injuries happen. If washington was smart they immediately would have       picked up whats going on and        had several guys haul his ass off the field and look at him on the sideline. I       also don't like that rule....I don't believe the offense when they are leading       like that should be punished for an injury(a penalty is different one could       argue), and there        would be a way to put distinctions on the rule to apply in different       situations. the whole thing just seemed like artificial drama that never       should have happened. Dont like that rule....        >        > But the washington coach was in a tough spot. It's not quite enough time to       run it out, and then what if texas takes over at like the 25 yard line with       like 18 seconds left, has a 25 yard pass to the 45, and then has a few hail       marys into the end zone        and one hits. He would have taken shit for that as well. But obviously with       the injury that changed everything, and texas went from like a 0.4% chance of       victory to probably like a 15% chance of victory do to the injury with 50       seconds left(maybe 20%        after the punt penalty).        >        > but I think kneeling and punting is probably the right move. Usually I am       all for teams getting aggressive to get a 1st down to win the game(and I think       thats what you do if texas had 3 timeouts and not 2), but with only two       timeouts and needing a td        had they just kneeled they could have gotten it down to such a point that       their chances of winning were 99%. Of course the probably was the washington       coach didn't really do either- he didn't play it safe by kneeling and also       didn't really try to get the        1st. Worst of both worlds.        >        > Also I've heard some say "well they just should have had penix run backwards       and then sideways for like 7 seconds each play to get the clock to zero".       No....this is a terrible idea. Maybe try to do that for 2-3 seconds each       play(which maybe gets the        clock down to 14 or so), but if you do it too far it is bound to draw a       penalty like a hold or block in the back. And that of course would be a killer       too(just like the injury was).        >        > It was just not a good situation for the washington coach to be in......much       different situation than the miami/two creams disaster earlier this year where       that game was 100% over.              The decision to try for the first down after the onside kick is a debatable       one. If you kneel three times, the other team is going       to get the ball but barring a special teams disaster, it will be deep in their       own territory with very little time and no timeouts.        What isn't debatable is the decision to pass for a TD before kicking the chip       shot field goal. Had they taken a knee and forced       Texas to use a timeout, there would have been no decision to make after       recovering the onside kick. Texas could only have       stopped clock once so Washington could have easily run out the last 75 seconds       by taking a knee. Kalen DeBoer should get       the Mario Christobal Award for boneheaded game management.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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