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   "junior-kun" wrote in message   
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   > Sea Wasp wrote:   
   > > junior-kun wrote:   
   > > > Sea Wasp wrote:   
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   > > >> As I said before, these were two religious fanatic sects. And exactly   
   > > >>who was there at the START of their religion? Who helped guide them   
   > > >>and raise them to the godhead, who gave them their missions?   
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   > > >   
   > > > There's nothing in the series to indicate that Lorien is a religious   
   > > > figure, and nothing to indicate that either the Vorlons or Shadows are   
   > > > religious. (Though they like to pretend to be gods in front of the   
   > > > inferior species)   
   > > >   
   > >   
   > > It's pretty clear that their "shepherding" of the other races was   
   > > something built on the basis of what the First Ones taught them   
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   > The term "first ones", as used in Babylon 5, referrs to, among others,   
   > the Vorlons and the Shadows.   
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   Thats they way the current youngrer races referred to 'em. However, as   
   Lorien said, his people found & guided the Shadows and Vorlons when they   
   were young.   
   Lorien said, after all, that he was the remaining "first one". The others   
   having become ill and died, were injured and died, or passed beyond the rim.   
      
   The Shadows kept returning to Z'ha'dum to honor Lorien, because he was   
   there. Even though "no one had been down to see him before Sheridan's   
   plunge". And, when its made clear that the Shadows, Vorlons, and others will   
   be leaving the Galaxy, the first intelligible (to me anyway) thing the   
   Shadows say is (to Lorien) "will you be coming with us?".   
      
   Dennis   
      
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