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   Message 90 of 1,564   
   Mac Breck to Wakboth   
   Re: Martian Heat Wave: Spoilers For Voic   
   05 Jan 04 00:58:33   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.sf.written   
   From: macthevorlon@yahoo.com   
      
   "Wakboth"  wrote in message   
   news:7e6336d4.0401041205.3000aa55@posting.google.com...   
   > "Mac Breck"  wrote in message   
   news:...   
   > > "Wakboth"  wrote in message   
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   > > > tsbrueni@dcn.davis.ca.us (Tim Bruening) wrote in   
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   > >   
   news:...   
   > > > > Spoilers for "Voices" the first Babylon 5 novel,   
   written   
   > >  by John   
   > > > > Vornholt:   
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   > > > > In this novel Talia Winters is framed for bombing a   
   Psi   
   > >  Corps convention   
   > > > > on Babylon 5.  At the beginning of this book,   
   Harriman   
   > >  Grey (a military   
   > > > > telepath) disembarks on Mars, and a computer voice   
   > >  announces that the   
   > > > > temperature is 201 Celcius (393.8F) and that the   
   > >  expected high would be   
   > > > > 274 C (525.2F).  On page 9, there is a reference to   
   > >  200-degree heat,   
   > > > > which dashed my notion that Vornholt had gotten   
   Celcius   
   > >  and Kevin   
   > > > > confused.  Later in the book, the temperature on   
   Mars   
   > >  rose to 379 C   
   > > > > (714.2F!).  Do you have any theories on how Mars   
   could   
   > >  get so hot?  I   
   > > > > thought Mars was supposed to be below freezing.   
   > > >   
   > > > What is happening here is that Vornholt has mixed   
   Mercury   
   > >  and Mars   
   > > > (not a big deal, both begin with an M, after all...),   
   and   
   > >  no one with   
   > > > even a semi-literacy in science read the book before   
   > >  publication.   
   > > >   
   > > > It's a pretty bad book anyway.   
   > >   
   > > Not as bad as #5.  I haven't read #6 or #8 yet, but I   
   hear   
   > > #8 is among the worst.   
   >   
   > Don't remember the numbers,   
      
   The Original Nine Dell B5 Novels:   
      
   Title: Book #1 Voices   
   Author: Vornholt, John   
   Timeframe: After Points of Departure & before A Race through   
   Dark Places   
   Isbn1: 0-440-22057-2   
   Copyright1: March 1995   
   Publisher1: Dell   
      
   Title: Book #2 Accusations   
   Author: Tilton, Lois   
   Timeframe: After The Coming of Shadows & before All Alone in   
   the Night.   
   Isbn1: 0-440-22058-0   
   Copyright1: May 1995   
   Publisher1: Dell   
      
   Title: Book #3 Blood Oath   
   Author: Vornholt, John   
   Timeframe: Historian's Note: This story takes place prior to   
   the events in The Coming of Shadows.   
   Isbn1: 0-440-22059-9   
   Copyright1: October 1995   
   Publisher1: Dell   
      
   Title: Book #4 Clark's Law   
   Author: Mortimore, Jim   
   Timeframe: 11/15/2242 - 12/24/2259   
   Isbn1: 0-440-22229-X   
   Copyright1: February 1996   
   Publisher1: Dell   
      
   Title: Book #5 The Touch of Your Shadow, the Whisper of Your   
   Name   
   Author: Barrett, Jr., Neal   
   Timeframe: Historian's Note: The events of this novel take   
   place in early 2260, before A Day in the Strife.   
   Isbn1: 0-440-22230-3   
   Copyright1: April 1996   
   Publisher1: Dell   
      
   Title: Book #6 Betrayals   
   Author: Stirling, S.M.   
   Timeframe: Historian's Note: The year is 2259, during the   
   Narn-Centauri War.   
   Isbn1: 0-440-22234-6   
   Copyright1: June 1996   
   Publisher1: Dell   
      
   Title: Book #7 The Shadow Within   
   Author: Cavelos, Jeanne   
   Timeframe: 11/2256 - 01/2257   
   Isbn1: 0-440-22348-2   
   Copyright1: April 1997   
   Publisher1: Dell   
   Isbn2: 0-345-45218-6   
   Copyright2: December 2002   
   Publisher2: DelRey   
      
   Title: Book #8 Personal Agendas   
   Author: Sarrantonio, Al   
   Timeframe: Historian's Note: The events of this novel take   
   place in 2261, before Falling Toward Apotheosis.   
   Isbn1: 0-440-22351-2   
   Copyright1: May 1997   
   Publisher1: Dell   
      
   Title: Book #9 To Dream in the City of Sorrows   
   Author: Drennan, Kathryn M.   
   Timeframe Marcus in 10/2260, recalling events of   
   1/2259-9/2260.   
   Isbn1: 0-440-22354-7   
   Copyright1: July 1997   
   Publisher1: Dell   
   Isbn2: 0-345-45219-4   
   Copyright2: July 2003   
   Publisher2: DelRey   
      
      
   Of those, only 7 and 9 are reputed to be canon (7 is about   
   80%, and 9 is about 90%).  All of the Del Rey B5 trilogies   
   (listed below) are considered to be canon (90% or better),   
   but they do have some mistakes in them (e.g. where the   
   Ondavi explodes in the The Passing of the Technomages book   
   2,  the year dates >=2267 in Legions of Fire, etc.).  The "A   
   Call to Arms" novelization left a lot to be desired, and had   
   quite a few errors. Haven't read the other two novelizations   
   yet.   
      
   The Del Rey B5 Novels (the three trilogies), and the   
   Novelizations:   
      
   Title: Dark Genesis - The Birth of the Psi Corps   
   Author: Keyes, J. Gregory   
   Timeframe: 2115-2189   
   Isbn1: 0-345-42715-7   
   Copyright1: October 1998   
   Publisher1: DelRey   
      
   Title: Deadly Relations - Bester Ascendant   
   Author: Keyes, J. Gregory   
   Timeframe: 2189-2258   
   Isbn1: 0-345-42716-5   
   Copyright1: March 1999   
   Publisher1: DelRey   
      
   Title: Final Reckoning - The Fate of Bester   
   Author: Keyes, J. Gregory   
   Timeframe: 2271-2281   
   Isbn1: 0-345-42717-3   
   Copyright1: October 1999   
   Publisher1: DelRey   
      
   Title: Legions of Fire - Book I - The Long Night of Centauri   
   Prime   
   Author: David, Peter   
   Timeframe: ~10/2262-12/2266. Dates corrected to line up with   
   A Call to Arms and Crusade.   
   Isbn1: 0-345-42718-1   
   Copyright1: December 1999   
   Publisher1: DelRey   
      
   Title: Legions of Fire - Book II - Armies of Light and Dark   
   Author: David, Peter   
   Timeframe: 12/14/2266-04/18/2272. Dates corrected to line up   
   with A Call to Arms and Crusade.   
   Isbn1: 0-345-42719-X   
   Copyright1: May 2000   
   Publisher1: DelRey   
      
   Title: Legions of Fire - Book III - Out of the Darkness   
   Author: David, Peter   
   Timeframe: 05/14/2273-01/21/2277. Dates corrected to line up   
   with A Call to Arms and Crusade.   
   Isbn1: 0-345-42720-3   
   Copyright1: November 2000   
   Publisher1: DelRey   
      
   Title: The Passing of the Techno-Mages - Book I - Casting   
   Shadows   
   Author: Cavelos, Jeanne   
   Timeframe: 11/2258-12/31/2258   
   Isbn1: 0-345-42721-1   
   Copyright1: March 2001   
   Publisher1: DelRey   
      
   Title: The Passing of the Techno-Mages - Book II - Summoning   
   Light   
   Author: Cavelos, Jeanne   
   Timeframe: 1/2259-2/2259   
   Isbn1: 0-345-42722-X   
   Copyright1: July 2001   
   Publisher1: DelRey   
      
   Title: The Passing of the Techno-Mages - Book III - Invoking   
   Darkness   
   Author: Cavelos, Jeanne   
   Timeframe: 8/2260-2261   
   Isbn1: 0-345-43833-7   
   Copyright1: December 2001   
   Publisher1: DelRey   
      
   Title: A Call to Arms   
   Author: Sheckley, Robert   
   Timeframe: 12/2266-01/2267   
   Isbn1: 0-345-43155-3   
   Copyright1: January 1999   
   Publisher1: DelRey   
      
   Title: In the Beginning   
   Author: David, Peter   
   Timeframe: Events of 2245-2248, as told by Londo in 01/2277.   
   Isbn1: 0-345-42452-2   
   Copyright1: January 1998   
   Publisher1: DelRey   
      
   Title: Thirdspace   
   Author: David, Peter   
   Timeframe: 6/2261   
   Isbn1: 0-345-42454-9   
   Copyright1: July 1998   
   Publisher1: DelRey   
      
      
   > but most -- no, all B5 books I've read   
   > have been less than stellar.   
      
   Which B5 books have you read?   
      
      
   > The biggest problem I had with them, as   
   > well as with the Thirdspace movie, was that the B5   
   universe is   
   > _tight_; there are no pointless loose ends, no pat   
      
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