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   From: paul@harper.net   
      
   On 21 Aug 2006 16:48:39 -0700, hrafnwif@yahoo.com wrote:   
      
   >> >  But Boxleitner braying "Get the *hell* out of our galaxy!"   
   >> > like that?  Ouch ouch ouch.)   
   >>   
   >> Kinda makes me wish the Shadows had zapped him *then* left...   
   >>   
   >> Paul.   
   >   
   >I think *that* was the problem.   
   >Not the line, but Boxleitner saying the line.  He makes even his good   
   >speeches sound all hayseed and dokey.  Imagine what's-his-name,   
   >Sinclair, saying it . . . softly, through clenched teeth . . .   
   >   
   >After all, Delenn has the cool, terse, "He is behind me.  You are in   
   >front of me.  If you value your lives, be somewhere else."  Positively   
   >clunkey when you write it out, but spoken by the right actor, what   
   >awesome lines!   
      
   You know what, I happily concede that. It's not just the writing, but   
   the acting. One *can* compensate for the other. Sadly, when both are   
   crap, there's no saving it!!   
      
   ... and I *so* agree with you re. Sinclair saying the lines. Quiet   
   forcefullness, determination without belligerence, focused aggression   
   rather than headless chicken reactionism (and it's not just because   
   having met Mr and Mrs O'Hare on many occasions I like and respect   
   them)   
      
   In delivery and credibility terms, it's Clinton rather than Bush. As a   
   random example. Of course.   
      
   Being in a room (okay, truth be known, a bar with several large   
   screens and an almost unlimited supply of alcohol!) with 70 or so   
   other B5 fans watching for the first time ever [for us] Delenn deliver   
   that line put the hairs up on the back on my neck, and no doubt most   
   of us in the room as well. Stunning stuff, especially when the   
   "Messages from Earth" trilogy was then played back-to-back.   
      
   Probably the closet thing to that specific group experience was when   
   we did the same thing for Sleeping in Light when there were 60 or 70   
   of us in the bar and the manager went around to collect empty glasses.   
   He came behind the bar to speak to me (I was running the tech rig that   
   night) and said "there are grown men crying up there", took one look   
   at my rather soggy face and said "bloody hell, you too" and went and   
   hid upstaire for the rest of the evening!    
      
   Watching B5 "cold" as a shared group experience was absolutely superb,   
   because the people I'd come to know face-to-face as a result of the   
   show were (and remain) good friends, close associates, and in the   
   nicest way, the most fun bunch of nutters I have ever met.   
      
   Being in the crowd at a rock concert came close to the experience, but   
   only close. Excellent stuff.   
      
   >Cool.  I just coined two new words . . . or a new usage and a new word   
   >. . .   
      
   Copyright them now, quick!   
      
   >And by the way, so *here* you are, Paul.  I was missing you over on   
   >.mod.   
   >   
   >I didn't see what the problem was, by the way.  You're no more annoying   
   >than anyone else out here.  ;)   
      
   Thanks for that, Jenn, appreciate it.  (I think!) :-)   
      
   Paul.   
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