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   From: anybody@anywhere-anytime.com   
      
   In article <3558i.65$V01.41@trnddc02>, peachy ashie passion   
    wrote:   
      
   > Anybody wrote:   
   >   
   > > In article <4h28i.88508$p47.37474@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,   
   > > "SpammersDie"  wrote:   
   > >   
   > >   
   > >>"SFTVratings"  wrote in message   
   > >>news:1180735370.923758.6740@q66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...   
   > >>   
   > >>>I'm sitting here watching Episode II - where Senator Padme' is almost   
   > >>>killed by an assassin.  And what does Jedi Master Obi-wan do?  He   
   > >>>jumps through a window, grabs the assassin droid, and proceeds to   
   > >>>almost get killed when the droid blows-up, and he falls to his death.   
   > >>   
   > >>I hope this isn't too much of a spoiler but the Jedi end up backing the   
   > >>wrong political party in Ep3 and the Palpatine administration ends up in   
   > >>power for the next two decades. Power returns to the other party only after   
   > >>a bunch of scrappy Rebel pilots (none of them Jedi) blow up the second   
   > >>Death   
   > >>Star.   
   > >>   
   > >>In other words, yes the moral is that the Jedi are stupid.   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > Not really stupid, simply complacent and unwary after 1,000 years of   
   > > not having a real enemy to face.   
   >   
   >     No.   
   >   
   >    They created Darth Vader.   
   >   
   >    He was consumed with a childish concern for his mother's safety   
   > because he was a CHILD and they left his mother as a SLAVE.   
   >   
   >    The Jedi Council created their own problems out of poor moral sense   
   > and idiot planning.   
      
   e-watch Episode I. The Jedi didn't actually want to train Anakin. The   
   Council told Qui-Gon that he was too old and they could sense danger.   
   It was Qui-Gon's refusal to obey the Council, and then Obi-Wan's   
   commitment to the promise he gave the dying Qui-Gon that began Ankain's   
   tale and downfall. Jedi trainees are normally removed from their   
   families at birth / babyhood on purpose so that they do not have that   
   emotional family connection (the families agree to this since being a   
   Jedi is such a huge honour and often a better life).   
      
   Anakin's fall to the Dark Side was only partly caused by his separation   
   from his mother and the dream of losing Padme ... it was also "helped"   
   along by Palpatine's manipulation.   
      
   The Jedi didn't create the Empire, which probably would have happened   
   with or without Anakin. It was Palpatine's plan long before he even   
   heard of Anakin.   
      
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