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   peachy ashie passion wrote:   
   > C'Pi wrote:   
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   >> peachy ashie passion wrote:   
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   >>> C'Pi wrote:   
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   >>>> peachy ashie passion wrote:   
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   >>>>> C'Pi wrote:   
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   >>>>>> peachy ashie passion wrote:   
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   >>>>>>> C'Pi wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>> Sorry.  You can keep snarking rudely, but you got to promise   
   >>>>>>>> you'll giggle every once in awhile.  It helps me know you're   
   >>>>>>>> human. C'Pi   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I wouldn't want to lie to you that way.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> *sigh*  Why oh why do I always have the soft spot for assholes?   
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   >>>>>> Must.........control.............typing.....   
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   >>>>>> C'Pi   
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   >>>>>   
   >>>>>    oh, nicely done.  You had self restraint there.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Question, Peachy.  How come you give Merrick a free pass for   
   >>>> slurring old people for having a smell he doesn't like?  Is it   
   >>>> because you know him better?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> C'Pi   
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   >>>   Nope.  I never met either one of you before this thread.   
   >>>   
   >>>  I expect it is because the ubiquitous nature of the gay slur, it's   
   >>> left me oversensitized to it.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Precisely the point.  Being oversensitive to the word, you may take   
   >> any use of the word as being negative.  If in my case I was using it   
   >> in a negative way you would have been able to point to some word or   
   >> phrase that I used that established a negative context for the   
   >> supposed slur.  Something like in Gman's comments in the 80's tv   
   >> Pilot thread where he established that he didn't like a certain kind   
   >> of music, which made his "greengay" comment a slur.  Or in the case   
   >> of Merrick where he says "As long as you don't smell...it'll be all   
   >> right" creating a negative context for the smell.  So far you   
   >> haven't been able to provide any context from what I said for the   
   >> word having been used as a slur.  In the end that just leaves you   
   >> with the word itself being a slur.  And that's too bad.  Some words   
   >> shouldn't be treated like that.  Someday it shouldn't matter if you   
   >> say a person is gay, even if they are not.   
   >   
   >    That's crap weaseling darlin.  Even if I like you, it's still crap   
   > weaseling.   
   >   
   >   It was the negative context that made his use a slur, it was the   
   > negative context that made your use a slur.   
      
   But once again I have to ask what the negative context was.  As far as I can   
   tell the only real negative thing I said about Palpatine was that he was a   
   politician, cause that's always a negative thing.   
      
   >   If you didn't intend it, I'd have respected you for just saying   
   > "wow, I didn't mean it that way.  I don't like that use of the word   
   > either"   
   >   
   >   You didn't.   
   >   
   >  You have continued to defend it.  In fact, this is the first I've   
   > actually seen you acknowledge that any use of the word might be a   
   > slur - up to this point, you've just flat stuck to claiming the word   
   > isn't a slur.   
      
   As I've said, any word can be a slur, depending on how you say it.  You're a   
   towel!!   
      
   The point isn't that a word can't be a slur, any word can be a slur, well   
   almost any word, I doubt "pie" could be a slur, becuase pie is always good,   
   but the point has been in that particular case I, and just me, didn't use   
   "gay" as a slur.   
      
   C'Pi   
      
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