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   peachy ashie passion wrote:   
   > C'Pi wrote:   
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   >> peachy ashie passion wrote:   
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   >>> C'Pi wrote:   
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   >>>> peachy ashie passion wrote:   
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   >>>>> C'Pi wrote:   
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   >>>>>> peachy ashie passion wrote:   
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   >>>>>>> C'Pi wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>> peachy ashie passion wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>> C'Pi wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>> Sorry.  You can keep snarking rudely, but you got to promise   
   >>>>>>>>>> you'll giggle every once in awhile.  It helps me know you're   
   >>>>>>>>>> human. C'Pi   
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   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> I wouldn't want to lie to you that way.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> *sigh*  Why oh why do I always have the soft spot for   
   >>>>>>>>> assholes?   
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   >>>>>>>> Must.........control.............typing.....   
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   >>>>>>>> C'Pi   
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   >>>>>>>   oh, nicely done.  You had self restraint there.   
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   >>>>>> Question, Peachy.  How come you give Merrick a free pass for   
   >>>>>> slurring old people for having a smell he doesn't like?  Is it   
   >>>>>> because you know him better?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> C'Pi   
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   >>>>>  Nope.  I never met either one of you before this thread.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I expect it is because the ubiquitous nature of the gay slur, it's   
   >>>>> left me oversensitized to it.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Precisely the point.  Being oversensitive to the word, you may take   
   >>>> any use of the word as being negative.  If in my case I was using   
   >>>> it in a negative way you would have been able to point to some   
   >>>> word or phrase that I used that established a negative context for   
   >>>> the supposed slur.  Something like in Gman's comments in the 80's   
   >>>> tv Pilot thread where he established that he didn't like a certain   
   >>>> kind of music, which made his "greengay" comment a slur.  Or in   
   >>>> the case of Merrick where he says "As long as you don't   
   >>>> smell...it'll be all right" creating a negative context for the   
   >>>> smell.  So far you haven't been able to provide any context from   
   >>>> what I said for the word having been used as a slur.  In the end   
   >>>> that just leaves you with the word itself being a slur.  And   
   >>>> that's too bad.  Some words shouldn't be treated like that. Someday it   
   >>>> shouldn't matter if you say a person is gay, even if   
   >>>> they are not.   
   >>>   
   >>>   That's crap weaseling darlin.  Even if I like you, it's still crap   
   >>> weaseling.   
   >>>   
   >>>  It was the negative context that made his use a slur, it was the   
   >>> negative context that made your use a slur.   
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   >>   
   >> But once again I have to ask what the negative context was.  As far   
   >> as I can tell the only real negative thing I said about Palpatine   
   >> was that he was a politician, cause that's always a negative thing.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>>  If you didn't intend it, I'd have respected you for just saying   
   >>> "wow, I didn't mean it that way.  I don't like that use of the word   
   >>> either"   
   >>>   
   >>>  You didn't.   
   >>>   
   >>> You have continued to defend it.  In fact, this is the first I've   
   >>> actually seen you acknowledge that any use of the word might be a   
   >>> slur - up to this point, you've just flat stuck to claiming the word   
   >>> isn't a slur.   
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   >>   
   >> As I've said, any word can be a slur, depending on how you say it. You're   
   >> a towel!!   
   >>   
   >> The point isn't that a word can't be a slur, any word can be a slur,   
   >> well almost any word, I doubt "pie" could be a slur, becuase pie is   
   >> always good, but the point has been in that particular case I, and   
   >> just me, didn't use "gay" as a slur.   
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   >    Since we've covered all that ground already, and I've elaborated on   
   > my reasoning that any use of "gay" that is solely related to   
   > appearance is a slur, I'm dropping it now.   
      
   Since I had previously made it clear it was unrelated to his appearance, I   
   guess it would be a good idea to drop it.  What I say is going to be ignored   
   anyway.   
      
   >   You won't agree, and I just lose more respect for you every time you   
   > open your mouth on the topic.   
      
   He-he.  A different topic wouldn't change that.   
      
   C'Pi   
      
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