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   From: exquisitepeach@hotmail.com   
      
   C'Pi wrote:   
      
   > peachy ashie passion wrote:   
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   >>C'Pi wrote:   
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   >>>peachy ashie passion wrote:   
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   >>>>C'Pi wrote:   
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   >>>>>peachy ashie passion wrote:   
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   >>>>>>C'Pi wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>peachy ashie passion wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>C'Pi wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>Sorry.  You can keep snarking rudely, but you got to promise   
   >>>>>>>>>you'll giggle every once in awhile.  It helps me know you're   
   >>>>>>>>>human. C'Pi   
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   >>>>>>>>I wouldn't want to lie to you that way.   
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   >>>>>>>>*sigh*  Why oh why do I always have the soft spot for assholes?   
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   >>>>>>>Must.........control.............typing.....   
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   >>>>>>>C'Pi   
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   >>>>>>   oh, nicely done.  You had self restraint there.   
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   >>>>>Question, Peachy.  How come you give Merrick a free pass for   
   >>>>>slurring old people for having a smell he doesn't like?  Is it   
   >>>>>because you know him better?   
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   >>>>>C'Pi   
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   >>>>  Nope.  I never met either one of you before this thread.   
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   >>>> I expect it is because the ubiquitous nature of the gay slur, it's   
   >>>>left me oversensitized to it.   
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   >>>Precisely the point.  Being oversensitive to the word, you may take   
   >>>any use of the word as being negative.  If in my case I was using it   
   >>>in a negative way you would have been able to point to some word or   
   >>>phrase that I used that established a negative context for the   
   >>>supposed slur.  Something like in Gman's comments in the 80's tv   
   >>>Pilot thread where he established that he didn't like a certain kind   
   >>>of music, which made his "greengay" comment a slur.  Or in the case   
   >>>of Merrick where he says "As long as you don't smell...it'll be all   
   >>>right" creating a negative context for the smell.  So far you   
   >>>haven't been able to provide any context from what I said for the   
   >>>word having been used as a slur.  In the end that just leaves you   
   >>>with the word itself being a slur.  And that's too bad.  Some words   
   >>>shouldn't be treated like that.  Someday it shouldn't matter if you   
   >>>say a person is gay, even if they are not.   
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   >>   That's crap weaseling darlin.  Even if I like you, it's still crap   
   >>weaseling.   
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   >>  It was the negative context that made his use a slur, it was the   
   >>negative context that made your use a slur.   
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   > But once again I have to ask what the negative context was.  As far as I can   
   > tell the only real negative thing I said about Palpatine was that he was a   
   > politician, cause that's always a negative thing.   
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   >>  If you didn't intend it, I'd have respected you for just saying   
   >>"wow, I didn't mean it that way.  I don't like that use of the word   
   >>either"   
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   >>  You didn't.   
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   >> You have continued to defend it.  In fact, this is the first I've   
   >>actually seen you acknowledge that any use of the word might be a   
   >>slur - up to this point, you've just flat stuck to claiming the word   
   >>isn't a slur.   
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   > As I've said, any word can be a slur, depending on how you say it.  You're a   
   > towel!!   
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   > The point isn't that a word can't be a slur, any word can be a slur, well   
   > almost any word, I doubt "pie" could be a slur, becuase pie is always good,   
   > but the point has been in that particular case I, and just me, didn't use   
   > "gay" as a slur.   
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   > C'Pi   
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       Since we've covered all that ground already, and I've elaborated on   
   my reasoning that any use of "gay" that is solely related to appearance   
   is a slur, I'm dropping it now.   
      
      You won't agree, and I just lose more respect for you every time you   
   open your mouth on the topic.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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