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   MI5 Persecution: How Could It Be True? (   
   24 Nov 07 07:52:03   
   
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   MI5 Persecution: How Could It Be True?   
      
   If you have the patience to read these articles you will be struck by how   
   apparently fantastic the claims being put forward are. You may ask   
   yourself why such seemingly nonsensical assertions are made. This matter   
   has been discussed on the Internets UK-local newsgroups for three years   
   now, and the denizens of the uk.misc newsgroup (the so-called   
   "miscreants") have come up with a number of theories to explain these   
   posts; it has been variously suggested that they are a troll (an   
   artificial creation for the amusement of its author), that they are made   
   by MI5 themselves with the purpose of discrediting other conspiracy   
   theories, and that the poster is mentally ill and the articles are   
   symptomatic of the illness (the view held by most miscreants).   
      
   Are these claims the product of mental illness, or is that just a cover?   
      
   The most obvious explanation, that the claims made result from the   
   admitted mental illness of the author, is the one which the persecutors   
   intend be the one accepted without consideration being given to the   
   possibility of the claims being true. The persecutors have actually been   
   very clever about this, both in selecting as their target someone who was   
   known from school or university as being borderline schizophrenic, and in   
   ensuring the nature of their persecution corresponds to what often   
   features in the delusions of a schizophrenic.   
      
   The very first incident of the persecution occurred in June 1990, when I   
   was still a student at university in London. It consisted of a reaction   
   (giggling) from the newsreader, Sue Carpenter of ITN, to what she saw   
   happening in my living-room at my parents home where I was living. Before   
   your imagination gets the better of you I should make clear that what the   
   newsreader was reacting to was not too embarrassing in nature; my mother   
   had brought an apple for me into the the room, and Sue Carpenter found   
   this amusing.   
      
   I recognized that Carpenter had reacted to what she had seen in my   
   living-room, yet this idea still seemed completely fantastic to me. My   
   reaction was to continue watching television, particularly the news, to   
   see if this incident would be repeated. It was, many times, both on BBC   
   and ITV. An intelligent person would have thought to obtain a video   
   recorder and capture some of these incidents in order to try to explain to   
   an observer what he saw in these broadcasts. Unfortunately, I failed this   
   test of intelligence, since I did not record these programmes. I have   
   recently attempted to obtain from ITN tapes of their news programmes   
   dating back to summer 1990, but, unhappily, they have advised me that they   
   do not have complete programmes including newsreaders comments dating back   
   to that period.   
      
   From the outset, the persecutors structured their actions to ensure that   
   any complaint would be met with disbelief, and dismissed as   
   delusional. This is why they chose as their target someone who was known   
   at school and university to be borderline mentally ill; and it is why they   
   fired the first shots of their campaign through the broadcast   
   media. Schizophrenics commonly believe the media harass them; it would be   
   exceptional for "full-duplex television" to exist in reality. Those with   
   schizophrenia also commonly believe people are talking about them; again,   
   the persecutors have shown themselves very rarely, but act through   
   intermediaries, both in the workplace, and in public and during travel.   
      
   Mental illness is not the cause of these claims, but the simulation of its   
   symptoms is a cover used by the persecutors to deny their victim the   
   ability to have his compaints believed.   
      
   What evidence exists to support these claims of "interactive   
   television/radio";?   
      
   Quite frankly, I have very little evidence to support my claims. You may   
   examine the "Evidence" area of my website to see such evidence as I have   
   been able to gather. None of it is remotely conclusive. The "smoking   
   guns" all date back to 1990/91, and it is really rather late now to start   
   trying to look for material dating back seven or eight years. In 1997 I   
   started tape-recording every programme I watched or listened to. I also   
   started carrying with me a high-fidelity minidisc-recorder with good   
   quality microphone to catch incidents of public harassment, but this also   
   has not been as successful or conclusive as I had hoped.   
      
   Perhaps the best item in the "Evidence" section is the audio file "Life is   
   so hard" (it is labelled with Garfield the cartoon character on the site),   
   which I have given a certainty level of 100%. This item relates to   
   harassment at my workplace in Canada in 1996. A co-worker called Mark was   
   coming up with phrases and expressions which were repeating things being   
   said at my Canadian residence, consequently leading me to believe that my   
   apartment and home phone were bugged, and that the persecutors were   
   passing their gathered information on to Mark. On one particular evening I   
   said in my apartment, "life is so hard, and then you die". The following   
   day I was able to record Mark saying exactly the same phrase at work.   
      
   Unfortunately when "they" know you are recording them, they simply dont   
   say things which would unambiguously show harassment. When Mark the   
   co-worker knew he was being recorded, he only made his remarks out of   
   range of the recorder, for example outside the building. When the TV   
   newscasters or radio disc jockeys know they are being taped, they limit   
   themselves to saying things which are ambiguous, which even in my mind may   
   or may not be personally directed against me.   
      
   Who knows about this persecution?   
      
   Surprisingly many people know. People in the media, such as BBC and ITN   
   newscasters including Martyn Lewis and Michael Buerk, and radio disc   
   jockeys such as Chris Tarrant of Capital Radio, know what is going on, and   
   take part in it. Some co-workers at my former workplaces in England and   
   Canada have known about the harassment. Quite a few people in the general   
   public are also included. I believe the police are aware of the   
   persecution, but, unfortunately, have chosen not to take any action to   
   stop it. I have complained at my local police station in London several   
   years ago, and I have stated on the internet newsgroups that I have done   
   so, hence the police will be well aware of my wish to see the matter   
   resolved. I believe their inaction denotes a dereliction of duty, but   
   without good evidence, I am powerless to compel them to take steps to   
   prevent further harassment, or deal with what has already taken place.   
      
   What is the purpose of sending these faxes?   
      
   These faxes are being sent to three distinct groups of people, namely   
   Members of Parliament, the media, and diplomats & legal people. As you   
   will have observed I am making use of the email-to-fax gateway at Demon   
   Internet to send these faxes. I am forced to use this gateway since I   
      
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