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|    Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) to Robin Sullivan    |
|    Heinlein Recommendations (was Re: Are yo    |
|    27 Sep 08 09:13:58    |
      3caa152b       XPost: rec.arts.sf.written       From: seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com              Robin Sullivan wrote:       > So I recently joined a SF/Fantasy Group and of course they talk about       > him a lot. It is obvious he has a major influence on the genre -               There are quite a few major influences which are declining in       readership. One of my favorite authors, E.E. "Doc" Smith, was one of the       most influential authors in the field, but he's now an acquired taste       for most people, and a lot of people aren't going to bother to acquire it.               Heinlein isn't in the same boat -- Doc Smith's *style* of writing is       very different from modern SF, while Heinlein's is still fairly close to       modern novel writing, so just the language use isn't driving people away       from Heinlein, unlike Doc's work. (Heinlein, however, WAS influenced by       Doc, as was just about every other SF author for two generations)              > being that I'm not familiar with him - if I were to start - where do       > you suggest I begin?               The short story collection "The Past Through Tomorrow" (which includes       a couple of short novels) is perhaps the best overall showcase. Also his       "juveniles", which were written for the teenage audience (in the 1950s,       roughly), are generally considered very good, with "Have Spacesuit, Will       Travel" and "Citizen of the Galaxy" being probably the best and "Rocket       Ship Galileo" usually singled out as the weakest.               There is a lot of STRONG division on his novels and which are good,       bad, or indifferent. In general, most people divide along temporal lines       where they see "Late Heinlein" as very different from "Early Heinlein".       The exact dividing line, like any writing division, is somewhat fuzzy.       "Stranger in a Strange Land", his most famous novel, shows the first       signs of what became "Late Heinlein", but isn't entirely a Late Heinlein       novel, and he produced a couple of other things afterward which are       generally classed more with the Early than Late.               Of his adult novels, "Double Star" may be the one that has the least       argument about how good it is. "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" is often       also considered one of his best works, but there's some controversy       associated with it. "The Puppet Masters" is a classic of alien invasion.       "Waldo" (often paired with "Magic, Inc.") is also a classic (without so       simple a description of what it's a classic OF).               His most controversial novel, aside from Stranger, is probably       "Starship Troopers". People generally either love it or detest it.               I happen to be in the "Late Heinlein sucks" camp, so I have a harder       time judging the good/bad divide there. However, of later RAH (Robert       Anson Heinlein) novels, I would say that "Time Enough For Love"       represents a transition point, with some material that's really good       mixed with some not very good. "The Number of the Beast" is in a way       sort of the canonical Late Heinlein novel. The most readable of his       later output -- again, for me -- is "Job: A Comedy of Justice".               His WORST novels from my point of view are "To Sail Beyond the Sunset"       and "I Will Fear No Evil"; the latter is something of an outlier in that       it overlaps the Earlier period, but at the time RAH was very sick and       there's no doubt that the illness, coupled with the fact that due to his       illness a less-polished draft was used for publication, contributed to this.                     --        Sea Wasp        /^\        ;;;         Live Journal: http://seawasp.livejournal.com              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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