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   Sandman to sgordon@changethisparttohardbat.com   
   Re: James Cameron   
   24 Nov 10 14:52:05   
   
   From: mr@sandman.net   
      
   In article <4cec8736$0$1646$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,   
    sgordon@changethisparttohardbat.com wrote:   
      
   > : > and so I think it is unfortunate that we can't see the effects   
   > : > and the editing that won the oscars in 1977.   
   > : We can.  They are available on DVD.   
   >   
   > In a quality that obfuscates the actual technical achievements.   
      
   Much like Bluray.   
      
   > And, they are unlikely to be released again, at least under George's watch.   
      
   Much like those silent movies...   
      
   > : > I was listening to the radio while driving last year (a daytime talk   
   > show),   
   > : > and the co-hosts were talking about how inferior the 1977 effects were to   
   > : > the prequel effects, and they used the Jabba scene from the SE as their   
   > : > example of a bad 1977 effect!  And these are alleged Star Wars fans.   
   > : That guy in furs was pretty lame.   
   >   
   > He looks a lot more realistic than the cheesy 90s CGI Jabba...   
      
   But the SE Jabba looks more realistic than the ESB-Jabba from 1980. I   
   don't think "realistic" is a metric you should insert into the   
   argument here.   
      
   > plus, he was not even in the original release.  He was wisely   
   > edited out... an example of Academy award winning editing being   
   > undone.   
      
   False logic. The Best Film Editing award was not awarded as a result   
   of that scene being edited out.   
      
   > Now we get Solo's spacecraft reveal prematurely.   
      
   Not really, you see very little of the Falcon in that scene, so the   
   Falcon scene carries no less weight.   
      
   > The word "conspiracy" comes from the word "conspire".  As I've said many   
   > times, I don't think this is a conspiracy at all.  It's one person's   
   > decisions and he is doing them openly.  He would probably claim that the   
   > choice of making the original disks non-anamorphic was an "artistic   
   > decision".   
      
   No, he has openly claimed that it was a cost issues, as you know.   
      
   > My opinion has never been that this is a "conspiracy".  They are simply   
   > disturbing strategic decisions, and terrible artistic decisions.   
      
   I know one way to make a terrible artistic decision; to release a copy   
   from an old outdated master that would be "decent/watchable" at best.   
      
      
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