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   Sandman to tmc1982@gmail.com   
   Re: Star Wars Special Editions: Pros & C   
   17 Dec 13 10:15:05   
   
   From: mr@sandman.net   
      
   In article <81efb973-3e6a-4bb0-b292-638eac6cbf4f@googlegroups.com>,   
   tmc1982@gmail.com  wrote:   
      
   >  - Pro. Improved exterior shots of the Jawa’s Sandcrawler as it rolls   
   >  across Tatooine.   
      
   Agreed.   
      
   >  - Pro. Greatly improved shot of Obi-Wan Kenobi’s previously cardboard   
   >  looking hut.   
      
   Sure   
      
   >  - Con. Far too many CGI extras added, crowding around in the streets of   
   >  Mos Eisley.   
      
   Agreed.   
      
   >  - Undecided. Han Solo shot first. Greedo shot first. Every time I view   
   >  this film, it seems as if this particular scene has been altered again.   
   >  I’m too confused to weigh in anymore.   
      
   Han should shoot first. No, scratch that, Han should be the only one who   
   shoots. No "first". They did change it for the DVD release to make it   
   tighter between the shots, but Greedo still comes off as a lousy moron for   
   a bounty hunter.   
      
   >  - Pro. Jabba the Hutt and Boba Fett make cameos. Since The Emperor is   
   >  only spoken of and Yoda had not yet been created, it’s nice to give the   
   >  audience a hint of this densely populated galaxy. Something which is   
   >  commonplace nowadays, introducing characters in minor roles and   
   >  expanding their parts in sequels.   
      
   This is a con, Jabba is an unknown threat to Han in ESB, and the audience   
   knows nothing about him, which is revealed in ROTJ. Making him a comedy   
   character in ANH destroys the character. The Jabba in ROTJ wouldn't bother   
   going down to the landing bays to speak to Han himself, he sends his   
   henchmen.   
      
   >  - Pro. Brand new shot included of the Millennium Falcon escaping Mos   
   >  Eisley.   
      
   Agreed. I loved the shot.   
      
   >  - Pro. The praxis wave is added when Alderaan is blown to pieces by the   
   >  Death Star.   
      
   Which has no bearing on physics, and is just some Sci-Fi added visuals that   
   add nothing to the destruction. It was first used in Star Trek and has been   
   over-used by every Sci Fi movie everywhere. An explosion, especially in   
   space, does not travel in a disc form unless mass forces it to. Alderaan   
   has no such mass. It could be argued that the trench on the death star   
   would make the praxis wave more logical, but the praxis wave of the death   
   star is not on the same plane as the trench (on the second death star it   
   is, but there we have other problems).   
      
   >  - Pro. Han Solo encounters even more Storm Troopers while escaping the   
   >  Death Star.   
      
   Agreed.   
      
   >  - Pro. Improved shots of the Millennium Falcon approaching Yavin.   
      
   Agreed.   
      
   >  - Pro. Improved shots of X-Wings departing their hidden base.   
      
   Agreed.   
      
   >  - Pro. Improved shots of X-Wings approaching the Death Star.   
      
   Same as above.   
      
   >  - Pro. The praxis wave appears again when the Death Star is destroyed.   
      
   Incorrectly so.   
      
   >  “The Empire Strikes Back”   
   >   
   >  - Pro. New shots included of the snow creature which had attacked Luke   
   >  on Hoth. What I really enjoyed was that this hulking Wampa was clearly a   
   >  “man in a suit” and not CGI.   
      
   The "Oh noes, me arm has come off!" dance. Clearly a con.   
      
   >  - Con. I don’t mind that Ian McDiarmid was superimposed as The Emperor,   
   >  but it does bother me that the dialogue in this scene was changed. The   
   >  Emperor now informs Darth Vader that the rebel who destroyed the Death   
   >  Star is the offspring of Anakin Skywalker, but Vader already knew that   
   >  because he said “Skywalker” before Imperial forces began their invasion   
   >  of Hoth earlier in the film. As if the prequels hadn’t created enough   
   >  plot holes, this special edition added another. Is Vader just being coy   
   >  with The Emperor?   
      
   Agreed.   
      
   >  - Undecided. Temuera Morrison, who had played Jango Fett in “Star Wars:   
   >  Episode II – Attack of the Clones,” re-dubs Boba Fett. I guess it was   
   >  necessary since Boba is a clone of Jango, but it takes away some of the   
   >  Fett man’s mystique.   
      
   And unnecessary so.   
      
   >  - Pro. New exterior shots show the grandeur of Cloud City.   
      
   Agreed   
      
   >  - Pro. Extras added when Lando Calrissian addresses Cloud City.   
      
   Sure   
      
   >  - Pro. R2-D2 fires a smoke screen during the escape from Cloud City. At   
   >  least this gives all the Storm Troopers an excuse for being such lousy   
   >  shots since they rarely hit their intended targets.   
      
   Uh, I don't think this was new to the SE...   
      
   >  “Return of the Jedi”   
   >   
   >  - Con. CGI band rocking out inside of Jabba’s palace. Such a lame scene.   
      
   Indeed.   
      
   >  - Pro. Banthas shown grazing on Tatooine. Another harmless modification.   
   >   
   >  - Pro. The Sarlacc is given some extra tentacles and a beak to eat Boba   
   Fett with.   
      
   Con. And it sounds like a pig.   
      
   >  - Pro. The praxis wave is used again in the destruction of Death Star II.   
      
   Con.   
      
   >  - Pro. The defeat of the Galactic Empire is celebrated on Tatooine,   
   >  Cloud City, Naboo, and Coruscant. With the exception of Naboo, all of   
   >  this was on the 1997 special edition. Naboo was added in 2004 and   
   >  Coruscant was also redesigned to more closely resemble how it appeared   
   >  in the prequels.   
      
   Unimportant.   
      
   >  - Pro. More triumphant music sounds during the victory celebration on Endor.   
   >   
   >  - Con. Hayden Christiansen appears as a Force Ghost… WHAT!? HELL NO!   
   >   
   >  Verdict: Hayden “Mannequin Skywalker” Christiansen has sullied Star   
   Wars enough.   
      
   Con: Palpatine screaming when falling down the shaft   
      
   Con: Ewoks are kept in the movie :)   
      
      
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