From: jas221@yahoo.com   
      
   On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 2:40:01 AM UTC+8, Sandman wrote:   
   > It seems to be the consensus, but I have some thoughts about that.   
   >   
   > Kylo Ren seems to be in his early twenties or thereabouts. Now, most other   
   > Siths in Star Wars have been adults well into their path to the dark side,   
   > fully consumed about it. Maul had no weaknesses, only evil kickass without   
   > regrets, but he was older than Kylo Ren.   
   >   
   > Ok, and Palpatine, we don't know how his path to the dark side went, or how   
   he   
   > handled it.   
   >   
   > And Vader, this epitome of evil villainy, this master of wordless   
   retribution,   
   > surely he was never a whiny kid... Oh, wait.   
   >   
   > Indeed, according to prequel canon, Anakin was a lot whinier than Kylo Ren   
   ever   
   > was in the same age. Anakin was even a *jedi* at the time, only slightly   
   lured   
   > by his inner emotions and rage at times, but otherwise surrounded by people   
   > that supported him, yet he whined like he wanted to go to the Toschi station   
   > every day.   
   >   
   > Kylo Ren, on the other hand, was influenced and lured to the dark side at a   
   > much earlier age, and is still torn between his past and his desires.   
   >   
   > So what about what we see him do? A First Order officer comes to him with bad   
   > news about a failure. Now, if this was bad-ass Vader, that officer would be   
   > limp on the floor within thirty seconds, but no - Kylo Ren is such a "wimp"   
   > that he just trashes the computer console in a fit of adolescent rage.   
   >   
   > Yes, but even though this displays a less degree of control over his emotions   
   > than Vader, it says even more about his role on board the star destroyer.   
   > Whereas Vader was the numero uno commander that everyone had to report to,   
   Kylo   
   > Ren is not. He is just a ride-along that Snoke has put there. He has no   
   > authority, and he certainly can't go around killing First Order officers.   
   >   
   > In ANH, vader has a similar role, where he is under the command of Tarkin,   
   and   
   > isn't allowed to kill another officer, merely threatening him. But once   
   Tarkin   
   > is gone and Vader is the sole survivor of the demise of the Death Star, he is   
   > now the new commander of the entire imperial star fleet.   
   >   
   > But think again about the path of Anakin and Ben. Anakin was seduced by the   
   > dark side of the force as a result of his desire to save his wife. And his   
   > first step towards is was the rage he felt when his mother died. The   
   *reasons*   
   > are fully understandable. Over time, this led to Anakin turning against the   
   > Jedi and bending his knee for Palpatine. BUT! And a big but, not until his   
   *own   
   > blood* turned up on his doorstep some 20 years later was he able to over time   
   > overcome the dark side and reject it.   
   >   
   > Contrast this with Ben Solo. We don't know the circumstances that led to him   
   > being lured to the dark side, but at the most crucial time he was faced with   
   > his own blood, his father and he decides to *kill him in cold blood*. He   
   seals   
   > his path to the dark side by murdering his own father, quite the opposite of   
   > Vader - making Kylo Ren one of the most cold-hearted and villainous villans   
   in   
   > Star Wars yet. While fearing he may never be as great as Vader, he shows that   
   > not only is his resolve much stronger, it is also done at a much earlier   
   stage   
   > and will give a lot of time to solidify his path to the dark side.   
   >   
   > Kylo Ren - most badass sith yet.   
   >   
   > --   
   > Sandman   
      
   Wimp? No   
   Badass? Not really.   
      
   Petulant brat? Yes!   
      
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