From: darth_azrael@yahoo.com   
      
   [quote title=Your Name wrote on Tue, 23 August 2016 21:30]In   
   article , Cyber kNight   
    wrote:   
   >  Your Name wrote on Tue, 23 August 2016 02:36   
   >  In article   
   >  , Cyber   
   >  kNight   
   >>   wrote:   
   >>>   Your Name wrote on Tue, 09 August 2016 17:17   
   >>>   In article   
   >>>>   
   >>>>  We don't want nor need a supposedly "better" story ...   
   we already   
   >>>>  have the story. Making a new one is simply Disney   
   being   
   >>>>  egotistical and making a confused mess of the   
   franchise.  :-\   
   >>>   
   >>>   That already happened with episodes I-III.   
   >>   
   >>  No it didn't. The Prequel Trilogy is what George Lucas   
   had   
   >>  (semi)planned all along ... he said virtually from the   
   start that he   
   >>  started in the middle (with Episode IV) because he knew   
   people would   
   >>  find the start of the story less interesting.   
   >>   
   >>  Even if it had done, George Lucas had every right to do   
   whatever he   
   >>  wanted with *HIS* creation.   
   >   
   >  Certainly the basic story of Anakin becoming Darth   
   > Vader was more or less   
   >  planned (or at least in the back of Lucas' mind) all   
   > along but much of the   
   >  storytelling, particularly in Episode I, was a confused   
   > mess.   
      
   No it wasn't. The complaints from the whiners about Episode   
   I were due   
   to it be "boring" (as Lucas said they would) and because   
   they didn't   
   like Jar Jar Binks (who is little different to the Ewoks or   
   the droids'   
   banter) or the supposed racial steretypes (after whining   
   there wasn't   
   enough "diversity" in the Original Trilogy).   
      
   [/quote   
      
   I disagree.   
      
   Quote:   
   > >  Disney now owns Star Wars because George Lucas sold   
   > > it to Disney (as he   
   > >  also had every right to do) and so now they have   
   > > every right to do   
   > >  whatever they want with it.   
   >   
   > No they don't. They may own the legal rights, but they   
   > did not create   
   > the idea. I could own the Mona Lisa, but it would still   
   > be abhorrent to   
   > any sane person if I was to draw a moustache and Harry   
   > Potter glasses   
   > on it simply because *I* thought it looked better that   
   > way.   
      
      
   So you are saying that Lucas did not have the right to sell   
   his ownership of the franchise to someone else to create   
   stories in? That's just silly. You don't have to like it but   
   they can certainly do it and if you don't like it then why   
   not just ignore it, enjoy the originals, and quit bitching   
   about it? The thing about art, in any form, derivative or   
   not, is that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.   
      
   Quote:   
   > >>>>   It's too late ... JJ Abrams so-called "Episode   
   > VII" *IS* simply a lazy   
   > >>>>   reboot of the original movies. The talentless   
   > idiot simply copied most   
   > >>>>   of his movie from the Original Trilogy (plus a   
   > bit of the Rebels   
   > >>>>   animated show with an orphaned main character),   
   > and then, similar to   
   > >>>>   his Star Drek mess, tried to disguise such   
   > stupidity by making it seem   
   > >>>>   like part of the same franchise. The reason so   
   > many people like   
   > >>>>   Episode VII is because it basically is the   
   > Original movie again.  :(   
   > >>>   
   > >>>   The problem with continuing a franchise years   
   > later is that you have   
   > >>>   to introduce new viewers in addition to appeasing   
   > the existing fans.   
   > >>   
   > >>  The existing fans have already introduced their kids   
   > to the Saga via   
   > >>  the various theatrical and DVD releases (as well as   
   > occasional TV   
   > >>  broadcasts) over the years.   
   > >   
   > >  No doubt many have but others have not and of   
   > > course there   
   > are many others   
   > >  who are not children of existing fans.   
   >   
   > That's what DVDs are for.   
   >   
   > There was absolutely no need at all to reboot or   
   > recreate the original   
   > movies ... or *ANY* franchise - never was, is, never   
   > will be ... other   
   > than Jar Jar Abrams' complete lack of creative talent,   
   > sheer laziness,   
   > and over-bloated ego thinking he knew better than George   
   > Lucas (the guy   
   > who actually had the talent to come up with the idea!).   
      
      
   Despite the derivative aspects of Episode VII there were   
   unique pieces as well and it was still a sequel, not a   
   reboot (for which I am personally thankful for).   
      
   Quote:   
   > >  If you hate Abrams so much, why did you watch the   
   > > movie? Do you still plan   
   > >  to watch the rest? You seem to have already   
   > > pre-judged them.   
   >   
   > Jar Jar Abrams' is a talentless, over-hyped cretin.   
   > Everything he   
   > touches is a disastrous mess, and he then jumps ship   
   > when he gets bored   
   > leaving others to try and tidy up the crap he leaves   
   > behind.   
      
      
   Everyone is entitled to their opinion but there are   
   obviously many people who like his movies despite whatever   
   you may think of them.   
      
   Quote:   
   > I certainly have never and will never pay to see his   
   > crap in a movie   
   > theatre. I only bought the DVD of his Star Wars "reboot"   
   > to complete   
   > the set, but regret doing that.   
      
      
   Yet you apparently still watch them. I guess one piece of   
   good news from your perspective will be that Abrams is not   
   involved in at least the next couple of Star Wars movies.   
      
      
      
      
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