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   From: yaniv_tempelman@hispeed.ch   
      
   Hello,   
      
   Bobbie Sellers wrote:   
   >> Lee Ratner writes:   
   >>> It sounds interesting. The reason why I find the topic of what   
   >>> Japanese parents tolerate in manga and anime interesting is because the   
   >>> tolerance is relevatively recent. During Japan's Imperial Era, there   
   >>> was serious censorship in all media. Japanese censors did not allow any   
   >>> romantic kissing in movies, both domestic and foreign, until after the   
   >>> American occupation. Much of what is allowed in anime and manga now   
   >>> would be impossible before 1945.   
   >> In moving pictures, maybe, but Shunga (erotic pictures, mostly ukiyo-e,   
   >> some kakemono-e) were widely drawn and sold across Japan since the Heian   
   >> period. The Tokugawas tried to shut it down several times, but didn't   
   >> really manage it. The only thing that apparently shut them down for   
   >> good, according to Wikipedia, was the introduction of photography, which   
   >> simply moved the problem to another medium. :)   
   >>   
   >> -=Eric   
   >   
   > During the Meji the forces of westernization destroyed a lot of   
   > the old fertility cult symbols around the nation. This was to gain   
   > respect from the Christian-based Western nations. These fertility   
   > fetishes were largely phallic pillars, I believe.   
      
   It's important to consider however that old sexual practices like yobai   
   ("night visits") still persisted in the japanese countryside even   
   until/after WWII. I recommend the manga "Hanazono merry go round" from   
   female author Kashiwagi Haruko to get an idea about it. Here are some   
   pictures (some are not worksafe):   
   http://www.donmai.ch/Manga Reviews/hanazono/hanazono.html   
      
      
      
   --   
   Yaniv Tempelman   
      
   http://ani.donmai.ch (german)   
      
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