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   Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers to Aje RavenStar   
   Re: [OT] Petition Against Non-Japanese F   
   25 Nov 07 20:42:02   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.anime.misc   
   From: usenet-2007@planetcobalt.net   
      
   In rec.arts.anime.misc Aje RavenStar  wrote:   
   > "Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers"  wrote:   
   >> In rec.arts.anime.misc Aje RavenStar  wrote:   
   >>> I have no problem with it, really.   
   >>   
   >> Good for you. I, however, do, so I think I'll be cancelling my   
   >> vacation plans for next year. Oh, well, saves me a five-digit amount   
   >> of money. Not my loss, I guess.   
   >   
   > Are you lucky enough that none of your fingerprints are on record   
   > anywhere?   
      
   Not that I know of. However, that is besides the point. Even if someone   
   has my fingerprints it doesn't mean at all that they or anyone else   
   should. Not to mention that there's a huge difference between what   
   individuals or non-government organizations do, and what governments do.   
      
   To repeat myself: if you don't care about being treated like a criminal   
   that's your problem. I do care. And I won't accept it.   
      
   [...]   
   > Refusing to make trips to go see things that are of interest to you   
   > because of this sort of thing is just hurting yourself.   
      
   I already provided a link that explains why you are wrong. Not making   
   the trip will hurt them as well, because tourism means business, and   
   business means taxes. Less tourism -> less business -> less taxes.   
      
   >>> It's a back up safety measure.   
   >>   
   >> No, it's not. If it were, residents would be the prime subjects to   
   >> these measure, because their exposure to those risks would be a lot   
   >> higher than any visitor's risk could ever be. There'd also be no need   
   >> to store the data for 70 years or share them with other countries.   
   >   
   > Yes, it is.  If the thing is going to be done anyway, it can damn well   
   > serve my purposes and not just theirs.   
      
   Re-read what I wrote to understand why this is apparently not the main   
   purpose, but a lame excuse.   
      
   >> These measures are normally applied *only* to criminals and crime   
   >> suspects. And maybe corpses. I'm not feeling welcome in a country   
   >> that treats me like any of these. Which is why I'm visiting neither   
   >> the US, nor Japan or any other country under circumstances like that.   
   >   
   > See what I said above.  I have no arrests, and only two traffic   
   > tickets in my life - but my prints are on file, and I have no idea how   
   > many agencies have them or access.   
      
   Sorry to hear that. Does that mean everyone else's prints should be on   
   file, too? IBTD.   
      
   > Didn't some states file copies of birth record prints with the Feds   
   > database?  Are you sure?   
      
   Pretty much, yes. Things are different here.   
      
   cu   
   59cobalt   
   --   
   "My surname is Li and my personal name is Kao, and there is a slight   
   flaw in my character."   
   --Li Kao (Barry Hughart: Bridge of Birds)   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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