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      XPost: rec.arts.int-fiction, rec.arts.marching.band.high-school,       rec.arts.marching.colorguard       XPost: rec.arts.marching.drumcorps              MI5 Persecution Update: Friday 30 April,. 1999              If You Intend. To Reply, Please Read This       Please.... keep. your response to one page!. Faxes over a page or two will       be. deleted without being read.              Somewhere between. 0 and 100%              The last few. days there have been no clear recordable instances of       abuse. However, while travelling on. the Underground, while walking around       near my home and going to friends homes, I. am constantly troubled by       thoughts that those people over there might. be about to get at me; that       the couple sitting. in the opposite seats laughing are in fact laughing at       me; et cetera, et. cetera.              A comment by a scientist to the. BSE inquiry sticks in my mind. He       described the possible scale of the. epidemic as "between 0% and 100%". It       might not be. happening, it might not happen at all, to any discernable       degree.... or. it might be total. Without clear recording, which seems to       have become impossible the last. couple of weeks, there is no way of       knowing whether the harassment really. is continuing, whether we have       entered. a temporary hiatus, or whether perhaps it has perhaps stopped for       now.              But for the time being I think there arent any reasons to. dicontinue these       faxes. I only re-started them six weeks ago in response to. a resumption of       MI5 harassment; and I think I will need to be more convinced. of absence of       persecution before I discontinue my. complaints.              The Newscasters are still. watching              In the last few weeks there have. been at least a couple of fairly overt       instances of. "interactive watching" by newscasters. I reported this in a       previous "MI5 Persecution. Update".              These instances are really very rare compared to 1990-91, when there. were       many dozens of such occurrences.. Undoubtedly the reduction is due to my       practice of videotaping everything I see. Recently I. had the opportunity       of showing this years "happenings". (Jon Snow/Nicholas Witchell) to my       psychiatrist, and he agreed that in both cases. the newscasters were       expressing merriment without visible cause, and that. objectively it might       be possible for my claims to be. true - although of course other people       reported. similar thoughts to him, and this thinking is usually a symptom       of. illness.              Read. About the MI5 Persecution on the World Wide Web              The March 1998 issue (number 42) of .net Magazine reviews the. website       describing it as an "excellent site". Since August. 11, 1996 over 50,000       people have browsed this. website.              You are. encouraged to read the web pages which include              a FAQ (frequently asked questions) section outlining the nature of. the       persecutors, their methods. of harassment through the media, people at work       and among the general. public              an evidence. section, which carries audio and video clips of media and       workplace harassment, rated according to how. directly I think they refer to me              objective descriptions of the state security agencies. involved              scanned texts of the. complaints I have made to media and state security       agencies. involved              posts which have been made to netnews over the last four years. on this topic              Keith Hill MP. (Labour - Streatham), my elected representative, as ever       refuses to. help.              MI5 Waste Taxpayer Millions on. Pointless Hate-Campaign              Recently I. was talking to an independent observer about the nature and       purpose of the perceived campaign of persecution. against me. The person I       spoke to, a highly intelligent man, said he. was struck by the utter       pointlessness of the perceived campaign. against me. He also said that, if       my theories were in fact true, many people would have. to be involved, in       the surveillance itself, and. in the technical side of the delivery of       information from my home to TV studios for example, if. the "interactive       watching" were happening as described. He voiced these. thoughts without       any prompting. from me; but both I and other observers had arrived at       pretty much. the same conclusions, some years ago.              I saw a team of four men at Toronto. Airport in 1993              To carry out the. surveillance alone, full-time, would employ four or five       men, or their equivalent in terms of man-hours. Each man. would "work" an       eight-hour shift, so you. would need at least three men doing the       surveillance, plus a connecting. link / manager. An indicator that this       estimate is correct arrived in 1993, when I was. accosted by one of a group       of four men at Toronto Airport; he said,. laughing, "if he tries to run       away well find him". Plainly these were the. men who had been involved in       the intrusive surveillance of me. for the preceding three years.              On other occasions, I have. seen the same man on two or three occasions. On       one such occasion, at Ottawas Civic. Hospital in November 1996; he gave his       name to the doctor. as "Alan Holdsworth" or some such; my hearing is not       very good sometimes and I am not sure of the. surname, although I am sure       "Alan" was his first name. I saw exactly the same man again in. Ottawa, at       the airport,. in July 1998. Obviously, other people must be "working" with       this person; he would not be the. sole agent employed in this case.              Usenet readers views on the Cost to MI5 of Running the. Campaign              Here's what a couple of other people on internet newsgroups. / Usenet       (uk.misc) had. to say regarding the cost of running such an operation...              PO: >Have. some sense, grow up and smell reality. What you are talking about       PO: >would take loads of planning, tens of thousands. of pounds and lots of       PO: >people involved in the planning, execution. and maintenance of it. You       PO: >must have a very high opinion of yourself to think you. are worth it.              and......              PM: >But why? And why you? Do you realize how much it would cost to. keep       PM: >one person under. continuous surveillance for five years? Think about       PM: >all the man/hours.. Say they _just_ allocated a two man team and a       PM: >supervisor. OK., Supervisor's salary, say, #30,000 a. year. Two men,       PM: >#20,000 a year each. But they'd. need to work in shifts -- so it would       PM: >be six. men at #20,000 (which with on-costs would work out at more       like       PM:. >#30,000 to the employer.)       PM:. >       PM: >So, we're talking #30,000 x 6.. #180,000. plus say, #40,000 for the       PM: >supervisor. #220,000. Then you've got. the hardware involved. And       PM:. >any transcription that needs doing. You don't think the 'Big Boss'       PM: >would listen to. hours and hours of tapes, do you.       PM:. >       PM: >So, all in all, you couldn't actually do the. job for much less than       PM: >a quarter million a year. Over five years. What are. you doing that makes       PM: >it worth the while of the state to spend over one and. a quarter million       PM:. >on you?              Those are pretty much the sort of calculations that went through my. head              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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