XPost: alt.slack, rec.arts.anime.misc, rec.arts.animation   
   XPost: alt.censorship   
   From: bliss@sfo.com   
      
   Doug Jacobs wrote:   
   > In rec.arts.anime.misc Starcade  wrote:   
      
   	Big snip   
   >   
   > Again, if law ends up classifying everything as child porn, and everyone   
   > as child pornographers, there's something wrong with the law.   
   >   
   >> As I told Bliss:  The fantasy itself is illegal.   
      
   	Fantasy cannot be illegal in and off itself as it is merely a thought   
   process to which no one else can be a witness.  Of course the Japanese   
   were, prior to WW II, big on prosecuting what they called thought crime   
   but which involved actual behaviors such as writing, printing and speaking   
   against the government or/and the Emperor.   
      
   	Even then they did not allow evidence of what people might be   
   thinking to intrude.   
      
      
   >   
   > Why?  Who is it hurting?  What child is being involved or damaged here?   
      
   	No child.  Only the propriety of the state is at risk.   
      
   >   
   >> Ben Franklin and the Founding Fathers would be terrorists today -- you   
   >> do realize this...   
      
   	Today to those of us who know what they did, they were Founding   
   Fathers of the USA,  revolutionaries.   
      
   >   
   > One's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.   
      
   	Sure but not historical figures.  George the Third was a mad tyrant   
   and his rule was merely thrown off.  The Colonials did not set off bombs   
   in London and murder parliamentarians who opposed their cause.   
   	So definitely not terrorists in the common sense today.   
      
   	Put Starcade in your kill-file and enjoy the group about 90% more.   
      
   	Let the troll baiters keep him going.   
      
   	later   
   	bliss   
      
   	   
      
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