XPost: rec.arts.anime.misc   
   From: bliss@sfo.com   
      
   On 06/27/2010 04:09 PM, Blade wrote:   
   >   
   >   
   > "B Sellers"  wrote in message   
   > news:i080h2$n2s$1@news.eternal-september.org...   
   >> As I have pointed out in the past in some cases the publishers   
   >> and in others the mangaka have failed to make their licensed work   
   >> available to the gaijin of the world. The library doesn't have seminal   
   >   
   > In most cases that is because there is not a perceived profitable market   
   > for it.   
      
   	There is a market but perhaps not the market size the Japanese   
   anticipate.  As the work is done by the licensee the cost is absorbed   
   into the price of the work sold to consumers.  It costs the Japanese   
   IP owners very little and the income is lagniappe for the IP owners.   
   Of course they may believe the market will be better at a later time   
   with a company more controlled by the Japanese.  But I doubt they   
   understand the sort of Americans who are interested in their product   
   and who may in the future be interested.   
      
   >   
   >> works like Asuka no Joe in even the original Japanese. We are fortunate   
   >> that they do have a lot of Osamu Tezuka, But they have failed to   
   >> finish the collections of various modern works like GTO, AYA, KOR manga   
   >> and the like. I think we would need a whole new building by the way   
   >> to fit all those works in if they stayed in paper format but a few   
   >> servers could be added with every manga ever printed and still   
   >> extant, scanned and translated into the electronic formats.   
   >>   
   >> Scanning and translation groups are attempting to drag manga   
   >> and anime into the 21st Century. There are a multitude of modern   
   >   
   > Oh, like they were in 1996? I'm going to go out on a limb here and say   
   > that isn't their motivation at all.   
      
   	Motivation seldom affect activity of this type as they do it for fun   
   and peer recognition very much as the coders of the Open Source Software   
   movement perfect their programs.  So regardless of the motivation the   
   effect is to help propel the change in formats and reimbursement   
   models.   
      
   	I hope your limb is broad and comfortable and in 1996 I wasn't   
   looking at manga or anime at all.  If I had been well I never would   
   have taken up computer use at all but in the 1980s I got sick and   
   retired from even my volunteer activities when I turned 65 around   
   2002 because i felt too ill to continue and in need of some  restful   
   so that I do not unduly exert myself I found subtitled anime an interesting   
   subject to follow.  From anime I fell into manga and from those into   
   study of Japanese history & culture and other media while continuing my   
   interest in manga and anime.   
      
   	But back to 1996 without the activities of such hobbyists and   
   their support groups would we have anything like the current interest   
   in anime and manga?  I rather think these people were trying to adapt   
   there interests to the late 20th Century but today even a retiree like   
   myself has DSL and googles with some effective results.  Remember   
   I found Yawara TV all 128 episodes on line in raws within 24 hours   
   of learning that the series could not be continued by AE.  Other people   
   had found it first and since then then have found the avi files of the   
   two movie length Yawara shows.  I would be happy to pay the   
   IP owner for these in regular DVD releases or in downloaded .iso   
   files.   
   	So when are the publishers and anime producers going to use   
   the technology of the 21st Century to make some money from me   
   and I don't mean in protected formats that won't work on my   
   computer.   
      
   >   
   >> ways for the mangaka and even the publisher on appropriate media   
   >> to get ample reimbursement if they would ditch the mindset that   
   >> paper is required or useful in a modern age.   
   >   
   > While I won't go so far as to say I'll never buy manga in an electronic   
   > format (kindles and such have apparently approved the experience and the   
   > tech will get better and cheaper), I will go so far as to say that at   
   > the moment I can't even be bothered to follow something free I have an   
   > interest in (like Rin-Ne) in an electronic format. It's hard on the eyes   
   > and not as comfortable as having a real book. I am hardly the only one   
   > who considers paper to be a value-add, so your generalisation is unfounded.   
   >   
   > -   
   > Blade   
      
   	First I think you seriously need a video upgrade.  I am reading very   
   small type as I write this reply on my notebook computer.   
   	About paper, to satisfy my entertainment desires in my lifetime   
   tons of trees have died,  I prefer books on paper and would never   
   get a closed format reading tablet such as those presently being   
   marketed.  But we need those trees to grow a bit more than they   
   have been allowed to recently.  I think papers time is limited   
   but it will likely be continuing past my time.  As for its replacement   
   hemp pulp based paper could be the thing but killing trees   
   is very bad for the rest of the world.   
      
   	Now I am going to get out my magnifier and read Fujoshi Rumi   
   again.  If I was willling to destroy the paper copies I could scan it   
   in and read it easily on the computer screen but I respect the   
   book much more than that.  This comes from the early years when   
   out of boredom we would read the ingredients list on cereal boxes   
   and tinned foodstuffs.   
      
   	later   
   	bliss   
      
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