XPost: rec.arts.anime.misc   
   From: mr.zoolook@gmail.com   
      
   On 28/06/2010 01:08, Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) wrote:   
   > Then it's a perfectly reasonable position to take (though I don't take   
   > it myself) that if the owner sees no profitable market, then there can   
   > be no stealing because the owner believes there is no money to be made,   
   > has no intention of selling the material there, and making copies   
   > therefore COSTS THE OWNER NOTHING AT ALL.   
      
   Odd... why bother to distance yourself from the act if you think there   
   is nothing inherently wrong with it?   
      
   > Unlike with cars, physical CDs, or other physical products, electronic   
   > copies being taken by unlicensed personnel does not in any way prevent   
   > the sale of legit copies. I.e., if I steal a hundred cars from my local   
   > dealership, the local dealership has just lost the inventory that they   
   > could have sold to legit customers. If I make a thousand copies of Manga   
   > Whatever electronically, the original is completely untouched and   
   > unchanged. So if Manga Whatever is sold in Japan, but the Japanese   
   > rightsholders say "nah, there's no market in America, we're not even   
   > going to sell it there", then twenty million copies made and distributed   
   > in America doesn't -- and CANNOT -- have any impact on their bottom   
   > line. They'd already decided there was no market, they weren't going to   
   > sell it here, so under NO circumstances would any of those copies have   
   > generated money for them.   
      
   But their copyright had been infringed... just because something is   
   free, it does not follow that it is   
   unregistered/non-copyright/available-without-licence.   
      
   > If the position of the rights owner is that the market is not worth the   
   > effort, then it is odd indeed for them to trouble themselves over that   
   > market supplying itself; if it's not worth the effort for them to   
   > exploit -- that effort being NO MORE FOR THEM THAN IT IS FOR THE   
   > PIRATES, really -- then suing over it would certainly seem to be saying,   
   > roughly, "you aren't worth my time to market to, but despite the fact   
   > that you're worthless, I'll still sue your ass."   
      
   I am not commenting on any particular manga here, but sometimes the   
   subject matter can be... questionable at best!  Incest, murder,   
   drug-use... these are not uncommon subjects!  Perhaps the US government   
   (under the belief that these "comics" and "cartoons" are aimed at the   
   younger audience) have deemed the material illegal!   
      
   --   
   How quickly daft jumping zebras vex.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)