XPost: rec.arts.anime.misc   
   From: bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com   
      
   On 08/21/2011 06:42 PM, Travers Naran wrote:   
   > On 21/08/2011 11:10 AM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:   
   >> So that is why I say that it is too bad you   
   >> had to wait for the Dirty Pair to get interested in   
   >> comics.   
   >   
   > Heh. That's some memory. You're remembering the Proterozoic eon of comic   
   > books. When those titles you mentioned ran mostly in newspapers then   
   > were collected into "books".   
      
   	Well if it was really the Proterozoric Era you would be   
   limited to Little Nemo in Dreamland, the Yellow Kid, and the original   
   Thimble Theater with a much fuller cast of players plus the French   
   and German strips which looked like admonitions to children to   
   play nice.  Krazy Kat worked its way in after that.  In the   
   Popeye reproductions of the Thimble Theater years they have   
   shorter strips being funny about manic inventors and some other obvious   
   sources of pre-WW II humor such as the poor enunciation of immigrants   
   and stereotypical racist ideas.   
   	Lots of this stuff was licensed to Japanese newspapers so   
   that they had lots of examples to start building their own manga   
   industry.  Pretty sure I saw the data on this in the books of   
   Frederick Schodt, "Manga Manga" and "Japanese Dreamland"(- SFPL) .   
      
   	Mesozoic era of illustrated narrative is pretty where I was   
   at.  My investigations of humor at the SPL led me to some much more   
   interesting stuff such as the free-flowing humorous writing of   
   S.J. Perlman who also did some Broadway stuff and I think worked   
   in Hollywood not for art but for money.   
   	But back on topic if you have read the history of   
   Japan you see that the Imperial Government and the Shogunal   
   governments pass through periods of vigor and decline   
   with various decadent influences arising with increasing   
   security.  I think manga and anime by turning back on   
   themselves for material are in such a decadent period   
   but it is only a theory.   The DC super-heroes have   
   been in it for years as they attempt to recast the   
   dream.   Finer art for the heroes and villains are   
   one aspect of this.  But the vigor of the original   
   mythic concepts are lost to some degree.   
      IMO of course.   
   	   
   	   
   	bliss   
      
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