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   Bobbie Sellers to Kenneth M. Lin   
   Re: Like High School stories?   
   28 Jan 14 14:38:28   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.anime.misc   
   From: bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com   
      
   On 01/28/2014 11:27 AM, Kenneth M. Lin wrote:   
   > This article is too long!   
      
   	Yes but if it was a manga it would be much longer.;^)   
      
   >   
   > Isn't it ironic that , U.S., which much higher high-school dropout rate,   
   > place more emphasis on going to college?  In Japan you must take an exam   
   > for each university you apply to and quite often, many students  would   
   > spend a year or more after high school cramming full-time in order to   
   > get accepted into the school of their choosing (or any school that would   
   > accept them you they are desperate).   
      
   	Japanese students have to take exams to get to a good middle school and   
   high school.   The students who graduate without study or   
   special talents/skills can do because of passing tests which they may   
   take as often as required.  The process is discussed in the article.   
   	Dropping out of HS in the USA is most often very negative to   
   the future life of the dropped out.  But frequently these are people   
   who have like the Japanese students described at the low end HS   
   in the article failed to understand the connection between education   
   and a good life.  They started this failure in middle school and most   
   likely their parents equally failed to understand the importance of   
   Study.  Such is often the case in the USA but without the Exams it is   
   not so clear.   
   	I see on the PBS lots of educational tactics to awaken modern   
   day students to their potential while 50 years ago in my parochial   
   school memorization of the catechism(Baltimore) was often the most   
   important thing on the teachers schedule.   
   		:^|   
   >   
   > On the other hand, if you are good at sports or have aspiration to   
   > become manga artists (like in Bakuman), you can see that you do not have   
   > to study at all in Japan and you can still graduate high school.   
   > Despite six years of English, I read somewhere that many Japanese still   
   > pronounced 1 (one) as "oh-ne."  Almost none can recite January through   
   > December.   
   	Because most the teachers find it onerous as well.   
   >   
   > Bullying in school is just being brought to attention in U.S. (because   
   > of cyber-bulling) but it has always been highly debated in Japan.   
      
   	Actually USA bullying was concentrated on non-gender conformant   
   students and people who were thought to be gay were lucky to stay in   
   school until graduation.  Same for other non-conformists.  The gay   
   rights movement has made some impact on this but the cyber-bullying   
   helped get the movement underway.   
      
   >   
   > And school is very stressful in Japan.  I read somewhere that on   
   > average, 86 people commit suicide in Japan each day.   
      
   	Not all are students because whether student or worker, life   
   according to the official schedule, is very stressful.   
   >   
   > Middle class is a very recent invention as far as civilization goes.  We   
   > ought to be at least grateful that capitalism allowed such class to even   
   > exist.   
      
   	Well capitalism in the USA seems bent on wiping out the middle class by   
   exportation of work.  Left with incomes not keeping up with   
   inflation the middle class must patronize the companies that moved the   
   work overseas and which sell what was once domestically produced to   
   the Americans.   
      
   	And the middle class is largely not a capitalist creation but a side   
   effect of the increase prosperity attending the industrial revolution.   
   In the USA the middle class was responsible for the national industrial   
   capacity which was so well deployed during WW II.   
   But the greed of the owners, landlords, and elite management have   
   torpedoed the middle class putting the savings in their filled pockets.   
   Well I could rant on but why bother.   
   	   
   >   
   > "Bobbie Sellers"  wrote in message news:lc418f$auf$1@dont-email.me...   
   >   
   >   
   >      Well the URL below will take you to an analysis with case examples   
   > of what happens to Japanese youth who   
   > do not realize the need to apply themselves from Middle   
   > School and cram school onward.   
   >   
   >         
   >   
   >      It is a fairly long article again and shows for example why Keiko   
   > of Genshiken ends up working in a hostess bar.   
   >   
   >      bliss   
      
   	bliss   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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