XPost: sci.astro, sci.physics, sci.space.policy   
   From: fjmccall@gmail.com   
      
   jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:   
      
   >In sci.physics Fred J. McCall  wrote:   
   >> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall  wrote:   
   >>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall  wrote:   
   >>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>At first I was going to respond to the whole thing then I   
   realized most   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of it was idiocy like not knowing how disease spreads and   
   denial of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>all the scholarly work that says there was a pre-columbian   
   population   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of 50 million to 100 million, 80 o 90 percent of which were   
   killed   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>by European diseseses.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So you noticed your own delusions.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>No, I quoted three scholarly sources, all of which said   
   essentially   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the same thing.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't believe I am derided in any of your 'scholarly sources'   
   unless   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you wrote them yourself.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>No, but you certainly are contradicted.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> And how is that, chimp?  What did I write (not what you read,   
   what I   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote) that they 'contradict'.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>That the indiginous peoples were not wiped out by European diseases   
   ...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Not what I said.  Go read it again.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>Yes, you did, several times.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Liar.  I'm not responsible for what you, in your immense stupidity,   
   >>>>>>>> substitute for what I wrote.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Liar, liar, pants on fire...   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Let's get this straight.  I didn't say what you claim I said and *I*   
   >>>>>> am a liar?  Yeah, right....   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>So you have never said that the indiginous peoples were not wiped out   
   >>>>>by European diseases?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Actually, no, I haven't.  What I've said is that there was a big   
   >>>> native die off that was coincident in time with the arrival of   
   >>>> Europeans in the New World and that the cause of that die off cannot   
   >>>> be known with certainty because it occurred outside the view of anyone   
   >>>> who would have recorded it and by the time those folks who would have   
   >>>> recorded it got there the die off was over.   
   >>>   
   >>>Yeah, sure.   
   >>>   
   >>>Except for the minor issue that the die off continued during the   
   >>>colonial era and was noticed and recorded by a lot of people.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Not according to your own cites.  What was noticed was the empty   
   >> country.   
   >>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>... and that there were few people in pre-columbian Americas.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Not what I said.  Go read it again.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>Yes, you did, several times.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Liar.  I'm not responsible for what you, in your immense stupidity,   
   >>>>>>>> substitute for what I wrote.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Liar, liar, pants on fire...   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Let's get this straight.  I didn't say what you claim I said and *I*   
   >>>>>> am a liar?  Yeah, right....   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>So you have never said that the indiginous peoples were not wiped out   
   >>>>>by European diseases?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Actually, no, I haven't.  What I've said is that there was a big   
   >>>> native die off that was coincident in time with the arrival of   
   >>>> Europeans in the New World and that the cause of that die off cannot   
   >>>> be known with certainty because it occurred outside the view of anyone   
   >>>> who would have recorded it and by the time those folks who would have   
   >>>> recorded it got there the die off was over.   
   >>>   
   >>>Yeah, sure.   
   >>>   
   >>>Except for the minor issue that the die off continued during the   
   >>>colonial era and was noticed and recorded by a lot of people.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Not according to your own cites.  What was noticed was the empty   
   >> country.   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>Why ask such a silly question when you said it several times?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Because I knew when you said it that what you came back with   
   wouldn't   
   >>>>>>>>>> be what I said.  You really don't handle English very well at all,   
   do   
   >>>>>>>>>> you?  Let me help you out just a bit.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> What I said was something like "many of the native peoples' died   
   >>>>>>>>>> before they ever met a European".   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>Weasle wording; the mass die off started with the Europeans.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> It's not "weasle workding", you stupid bastard.  Words mean what they   
   >>>>>>>> mean.  Read what people write, not what your asshole personality wants   
   >>>>>>>> them to have said.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>The mass die off started with the Europeans.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> It's not "weasel wording", you stupid bastard.  Words mean what they   
   >>>>>> mean.  Learn to read what people write, not what your asshole   
   >>>>>> personality wants them to have said.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>So you have never said that the indiginous peoples were not wiped out   
   >>>>>by European diseases?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Actually, no, I haven't.  What I've said is that there was a big   
   >>>> native die off that was coincident in time with the arrival of   
   >>>> Europeans in the New World and that the cause of that die off cannot   
   >>>> be known with certainty because it occurred outside the view of anyone   
   >>>> who would have recorded it and by the time those folks who would have   
   >>>> recorded it got there the die off was over.   
   >>>   
   >>>Yeah, sure.   
   >>>   
   >>>Except for the minor issue that the die off continued during the   
   >>>colonial era and was noticed and recorded by a lot of people.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Not according to your own cites.  What was noticed was the empty   
   >> country.   
   >>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
      
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