XPost: sci.astro, sci.physics, sci.space.policy
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>
>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall wrote:
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall wrote:
>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall wrote:
>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>At first I was going to respond to the whole thing then I
realized most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of it was idiocy like not knowing how disease spreads and
denial of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>all the scholarly work that says there was a pre-columbian
population
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of 50 million to 100 million, 80 o 90 percent of which were
killed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>by European diseseses.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So you noticed your own delusions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>No, I quoted three scholarly sources, all of which said
essentially
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the same thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't believe I am derided in any of your 'scholarly
sources' unless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you wrote them yourself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>No, but you certainly are contradicted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And how is that, chimp? What did I write (not what you read,
what I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote) that they 'contradict'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>That the indiginous peoples were not wiped out by European
diseases ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not what I said. Go read it again.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Yes, you did, several times.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Liar. I'm not responsible for what you, in your immense stupidity,
>>>>>>>>> substitute for what I wrote.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Liar, liar, pants on fire...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's get this straight. I didn't say what you claim I said and *I*
>>>>>>> am a liar? Yeah, right....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So you have never said that the indiginous peoples were not wiped out
>>>>>>by European diseases?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, no, I haven't. What I've said is that there was a big
>>>>> native die off that was coincident in time with the arrival of
>>>>> Europeans in the New World and that the cause of that die off cannot
>>>>> be known with certainty because it occurred outside the view of anyone
>>>>> who would have recorded it and by the time those folks who would have
>>>>> recorded it got there the die off was over.
>>>>
>>>>Yeah, sure.
>>>>
>>>>Except for the minor issue that the die off continued during the
>>>>colonial era and was noticed and recorded by a lot of people.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Not according to your own cites. What was noticed was the empty
>>> country.
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>... and that there were few people in pre-columbian Americas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not what I said. Go read it again.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Yes, you did, several times.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Liar. I'm not responsible for what you, in your immense stupidity,
>>>>>>>>> substitute for what I wrote.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Liar, liar, pants on fire...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's get this straight. I didn't say what you claim I said and *I*
>>>>>>> am a liar? Yeah, right....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So you have never said that the indiginous peoples were not wiped out
>>>>>>by European diseases?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, no, I haven't. What I've said is that there was a big
>>>>> native die off that was coincident in time with the arrival of
>>>>> Europeans in the New World and that the cause of that die off cannot
>>>>> be known with certainty because it occurred outside the view of anyone
>>>>> who would have recorded it and by the time those folks who would have
>>>>> recorded it got there the die off was over.
>>>>
>>>>Yeah, sure.
>>>>
>>>>Except for the minor issue that the die off continued during the
>>>>colonial era and was noticed and recorded by a lot of people.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Not according to your own cites. What was noticed was the empty
>>> country.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Why ask such a silly question when you said it several times?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Because I knew when you said it that what you came back with
wouldn't
>>>>>>>>>>> be what I said. You really don't handle English very well at all,
do
>>>>>>>>>>> you? Let me help you out just a bit.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What I said was something like "many of the native peoples' died
>>>>>>>>>>> before they ever met a European".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Weasle wording; the mass die off started with the Europeans.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's not "weasle workding", you stupid bastard. Words mean what they
>>>>>>>>> mean. Read what people write, not what your asshole personality
wants
>>>>>>>>> them to have said.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The mass die off started with the Europeans.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's not "weasel wording", you stupid bastard. Words mean what they
>>>>>>> mean. Learn to read what people write, not what your asshole
>>>>>>> personality wants them to have said.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So you have never said that the indiginous peoples were not wiped out
>>>>>>by European diseases?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, no, I haven't. What I've said is that there was a big
>>>>> native die off that was coincident in time with the arrival of
>>>>> Europeans in the New World and that the cause of that die off cannot
>>>>> be known with certainty because it occurred outside the view of anyone
>>>>> who would have recorded it and by the time those folks who would have
>>>>> recorded it got there the die off was over.
>>>>
>>>>Yeah, sure.
>>>>
>>>>Except for the minor issue that the die off continued during the
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