XPost: sci.astro, sci.physics, sci.space.policy   
   From: fjmccall@gmail.com   
      
   jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:   
      
   >In sci.physics Fred J. McCall  wrote:   
   >> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall  wrote:   
   >>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall  wrote:   
   >>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>At first I was going to respond to the whole thing then I   
   realized most   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of it was idiocy like not knowing how disease spreads and   
   denial of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>all the scholarly work that says there was a   
   pre-columbian population   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of 50 million to 100 million, 80 o 90 percent of which   
   were killed   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>by European diseseses.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So you noticed your own delusions.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>No, I quoted three scholarly sources, all of which said   
   essentially   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the same thing.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't believe I am derided in any of your 'scholarly   
   sources' unless   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you wrote them yourself.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>No, but you certainly are contradicted.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And how is that, chimp?  What did I write (not what you read,   
   what I   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote) that they 'contradict'.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>That the indiginous peoples were not wiped out by European   
   diseases ...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not what I said.  Go read it again.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>Yes, you did, several times.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Liar.  I'm not responsible for what you, in your immense   
   stupidity,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> substitute for what I wrote.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>Liar, liar, pants on fire...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Let's get this straight.  I didn't say what you claim I said and *I*   
   >>>>>>>>>> am a liar?  Yeah, right....   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>So you have never said that the indiginous peoples were not wiped out   
   >>>>>>>>>by European diseases?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Actually, no, I haven't.  What I've said is that there was a big   
   >>>>>>>> native die off that was coincident in time with the arrival of   
   >>>>>>>> Europeans in the New World and that the cause of that die off cannot   
   >>>>>>>> be known with certainty because it occurred outside the view of anyone   
   >>>>>>>> who would have recorded it and by the time those folks who would have   
   >>>>>>>> recorded it got there the die off was over.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Yeah, sure.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Except for the minor issue that the die off continued during the   
   >>>>>>>colonial era and was noticed and recorded by a lot of people.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Not according to your own cites.  What was noticed was the empty   
   >>>>>> country.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>... and that there were few people in pre-columbian Americas.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not what I said.  Go read it again.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>Yes, you did, several times.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Liar.  I'm not responsible for what you, in your immense   
   stupidity,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> substitute for what I wrote.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>Liar, liar, pants on fire...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Let's get this straight.  I didn't say what you claim I said and *I*   
   >>>>>>>>>> am a liar?  Yeah, right....   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>So you have never said that the indiginous peoples were not wiped out   
   >>>>>>>>>by European diseases?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Actually, no, I haven't.  What I've said is that there was a big   
   >>>>>>>> native die off that was coincident in time with the arrival of   
   >>>>>>>> Europeans in the New World and that the cause of that die off cannot   
   >>>>>>>> be known with certainty because it occurred outside the view of anyone   
   >>>>>>>> who would have recorded it and by the time those folks who would have   
   >>>>>>>> recorded it got there the die off was over.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Yeah, sure.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Except for the minor issue that the die off continued during the   
   >>>>>>>colonial era and was noticed and recorded by a lot of people.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Not according to your own cites.  What was noticed was the empty   
   >>>>>> country.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Why ask such a silly question when you said it several times?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because I knew when you said it that what you came back with   
   wouldn't   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be what I said.  You really don't handle English very well at   
   all, do   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you?  Let me help you out just a bit.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I said was something like "many of the native peoples' died   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> before they ever met a European".   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>Weasle wording; the mass die off started with the Europeans.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> It's not "weasle workding", you stupid bastard.  Words mean what   
   they   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> mean.  Read what people write, not what your asshole personality   
   wants   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> them to have said.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>The mass die off started with the Europeans.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> It's not "weasel wording", you stupid bastard.  Words mean what they   
   >>>>>>>>>> mean.  Learn to read what people write, not what your asshole   
      
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