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|    Mikkel Haaheim to All    |
|    Re: James S.A. Corey's answer to There A    |
|    07 Jun 16 12:49:58    |
      From: mikkelhaaheim@gmail.com              Le mardi 7 juin 2016 02:43:53 UTC+2, eripe a écrit :              >        > Even if you are as dark and cold as an asteroid, can you keep that up for       days as you cruise through space?              You really don't have to. All you have to do is make short term, intermittent       burns, during which you dump all the waste heat in the exhaust... yes, this       will likely decrease Isp, but it is a tactical trad off.                     >        > A very directed exhaust might not hit a sensor, but there are still enough       atoms in space that a sensitive enough sensor will detect them lighting up       under the massive plasma beam.              There are, on average, approximately 5 atoms or particles per cm^3. Most of       these are the high energy product of the solar winds. It is extremely unlikely       that anyone would be able to retrieve any useful information from such       secondary bombardment.                            > I was thinking to use a water jet at 10000 bar for a cold drive gas, but it       has some weight issues…               Not necessary. Even if the secondary collisions were to provide some useful       information, this can be effectively nullified through the use of intermittent       burns.                            >        > To go anywhere you will need to turn your drive on, and then people will       know your trajectory, and they will be able to calculate it very precisely, so       even if they can’t see you, they will still know where you are.               This is not so easy as the AR crew would have us believe. All observation is       essentially 2D. In order to determine the trajectory, you need 3D information.       For example, is that 2km gas cloud travelling laterally to your location? is       it at an angle (which        means it is considerably longer than 2km)? Is it the entire cloud, or is part       of it being obscurred?       Next, the detectors that can extract such precision data are extremely narrow       field. You need to now exactly where the target is in order to use it.       Burnsides 4 hour scan can only provide resolution of 1225 km^2/pixel at 1       AU... and that is assuming you        actually know the distance. At such low resolution, at such intervals of       detection, it will not be possible to maintain a position lock long enough to       bring the precision equipment into play.                                   >        > You would have to separate your craft from a booster section during boost,       so you would have a different trajectory than the booster part, but the       mission would then have to include a legal objective for the booster.              Nonsense. You just need to make sure you are not projecting signs of a       military manoeuvre.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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