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   Message 44,158 of 45,986   
   Mikkel Haaheim to All   
   Re: I think I may have invented a new cl   
   21 Jun 16 07:58:58   
   
   From: mikkelhaaheim@gmail.com   
      
   Le mardi 21 juin 2016 05:13:45 UTC+2, Cameron Sanders a écrit :   
   > Been working on this concept for a story of mine. If anyone can think of any   
   similar FTL device please let me know.   
   >    
   > X space is a working title, not sure what to call it, but I was inspired by   
   looking at a picture of a hopf fibration.   
   >    
   > I am trying to think of possible repercussions this technology could have on   
   a society, militarily or otherwise.   
   >    
   >    
   > The X space can be thought of a tightly wound but well-ordered bundle of   
   fibers, each able to slide over the other. Each point on these fibres is   
   connected to some other point in normal space (though the locations of these   
   points may not necessarily be    
   analogous to real space ie. Two points next to each other could be several   
   thousand light years apart, even more interesting is that it is entirely   
   possible for two separate points to map out to the same location [this has led   
   some to spacer tales about    
   being cloned on entering X space as the opposite could theoretically occur])   
   >    
   > These fibers or “strands” are in constant complex but incredibly   
   predictable “motion” relative to normal space so one may have to cross   
   from one strand to another to get to the correct position to exit. This can be   
   performed in X space at the    
   cost of “coasting inertia” or one may opt to exit X space at a given point   
   and reenter on the next strand over (something which can be dangerous if the   
   normal space analogue is unexplored)   
   >    
   > One may travel down a strand at a constant “coasting inertia” for as   
   long as they wish, and they may theoretically cross over as many strands as   
   they wish, though for every strand they cross their “coasting inertia”   
   will be reduced, eventually    
   asymptoting towards zero. This dynamic of X space may make a series of short   
   hops or a single long coast down a strand more desirable depending on the   
   location of entry and exit.   
   >    
   > With current technology pinpoint jumps are not impossible but are incredibly   
   dangerous. That is to say one does not generally exit at a precise   
   mathematical point on a strand (although one may enter at one quite easily).   
   This being said, there are “   
   densities” of points on the strands where the likelihood of exiting at a   
   specific point  are astronomically high, these regions are generally stable   
   positions in normal space, though some may drift around within a predictable   
   region of normal space.   
   >    
   > Obviously these locations become something akin to gates, and have been well   
   mapped. They are used both commercially and militarily.   
      
   It doesn't sound particularly new to me. Just a derivative of the warp   
   concept. Alternatively, it could be considered a wormhole, except that normal   
   representations of wormholes show normal space as uncurved (your   
   representation actually sounds a lot    
   closer to a literal interpretation of the actual mathematics, since my   
   understanding is that you never actually traverse any real distance when   
   passing from one side to the other).   
   Even though the principal is not new, the presentation might be... and I DO   
   rather like it. I would even imagine that someone familiar with the fibre   
   notion corrects the "classical" view of a wormhole, explaining how the latter   
   is utter nonsense.   
   I also like the notion of the clones, although, from your discription, this   
   coul only occur at the point where the two fibres meet. Once you cross from   
   one side to another, there is only one in existence... but if you are "stuck"   
   between points, you    
   could be seen as sliding through space at two completely different locations.   
   You might "discover" that this is what happened during early accidents   
   involving the gate tech... or later accidents when the tech failed.   
   There are four societal perspectives that I see here:   
   the "unaware" who receive visitors through a forming gate, perhaps perceiving   
   the visitors as ghosts, angels/demons, deities, etc;   
   the early travellers who risk a lot exploring the trajectories of the gates...   
   many being lost, killed, injured, etc;   
   the experienced who now know exactly how the gates work, where they go, etc;   
   and the "aware" travellors who have the maps produced by others, and use the   
   gates on a routine basis, but would be hopelessly lost if something goes wrong.   
   The gates will be strategic keypoints, especially for distant commerce.   
   Holding a gate, and charging access to it, will make some very rich... and   
   will be a motive for numerous conflicts.   
   There is room for medical related plotlines. The distances involved are ripe   
   for unintended epidemic stories with visitors carrying bacteria and/or viri   
   that are as common as the cold for them, or might be an essential component of   
   their metabolic flora (   
   i.e. intestinal and gastral flora), but are instantly lethal for those on the   
   other side of the gate. Accidents of this nature could lead to instant warfare   
   among peoles who don't know what is happening.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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