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   elie.thorne@gmail.com to All   
   Re: James S.A. Corey's answer to There A   
   26 Jul 16 01:56:04   
   
   Le lundi 25 juillet 2016 12:32:12 UTC+2, Mikkel Haaheim a écrit :   
      
   > > > This is not a problem, however, if the sound generators are deployed   
   > > > throughout the oceans en mass... but EVERYONE will be able to hear the   
   > > > reflections. Nothing in the oceans would ever by stealthy again.   
   > >    
   > >   Until the easily-located "illuminators" are destroyed, which will be a   
   priority for all sides.   
   >    
   > Quite true... unless they are well defended. As I said, stealth works   
   because navies WANT stealth to work. If navies did NOT want stealth to work,   
   they would put up such a network, establish multiple levels of redundancy, and   
   establish strong defenses    
   for the transmitters. But this would be a significant investment, and...   
   navies WANT stealth to work.   
      
   Oh no, they really don't. To be specific, "they" means the US Navy here. They   
   lost enough fully escorted aircraft carriers to sub (both diesel-electric and   
   nuclear) during naval exercises to not want it.   
   Which is why they are deploying drone ships to criscross the seas and search   
   for subs.   
   The reason no navy has full sonar coverage of the oceans is because there is   
   simply too much of it. It's not that they don't want to pay for it, it is that   
   they can't afford it.   
      
   It would also have devastating environmental effect on species using sonar for   
   guidance, like dolphins and whales, but since when did we let zoocide get in   
   the way of a strategic edge?   
      
   Note that navies use active (and passive) deployable sonar buoys, so the   
   target is painted on the buoy instead of the ship/helicopter - in addition to   
   provide better coverage.   
      
   So, once again, seas are not a good parallel to space here.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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