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|    Question regarding relativity and the ma    |
|    21 Aug 16 00:09:23    |
      First off, my grasp of this topic is somewhat limited, so apologies if I'm       misunderstanding something.              Now, as I understand it, one of the effects of relativity is that an object       gains mass as its velocity approaches the speed of light, because of all the       kinetic energy that velocity represents.              However, if all motion is relative, wouldn't velocity be relative as well? An       object moving at 99% c relative to a stationary observer would have a lot of       velocity (and therefore additional mass) relative to that observer, but from       the object's frame of        reference wouldn't it be the observer that is moving? (And has the increased       mass?)              I guess my main question is: Are the effects of increased mass from       relativistic speeds observable from the reference frame of an object moving at       those speeds, or does it only come into play when interacting with other       frames of reference? And if they        are observable from the object's frame of reference, how do you determine your       actual velocity/kinetic energy in order to calculate these effects?              For example:              > If a spaceship accelerated to a sufficient fraction of C, would the crew       detect an increased gravitational pull due to the ship's increased mass? Or       would this only be noticeable to stationary objects the ship passed by?              > Could an object theoretically (assuming sufficiently ridiculous means of       acceleration) reach a speed where its increased mass causes it to collapse       into a black hole? Or just neutronium? Could you achieve fusion this way?              > If so, would this be universal or could the object exist in both a black       hole/neutronium/fusing state and a non-black hole/neutronium/fusing state,       depending on your frame of reference? ie: a stationary observer would see and       interact with the object        as though it were a black hole, but an observer in the object's frame would       not.              > Would the lorentz contraction have any effect on this, or is it merely a       'visual' artifact due to differing orientations in spacetime?               To me, the biggest potential consequence of all this is that if the effects       *are* relative, a spacecraft wouldn't have to worry about the increased mass       making it harder for their engines to accelerate the ship. You'd still need an       infinite supply of        energy to reach the speed of light, but you could get closer since your engine       efficiency wouldn't start dropping off on you. That could make a big       difference when designing interstellar spacecraft.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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