XPost: sci.space.policy, sci.physics, sci.astro   
   From: droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com   
      
   For your reference, records indicate that   
   Fred J. McCall wrote:   
      
   > So your whole 'argument' amounts to a chicken/egg thing. You said   
   > there were no flying cars in the 'real world'. Now you want to move   
   > the goal posts.   
      
   No, I’m saying that just because someone is *trying* to make a   
   thing happen doesn’t mean it has happened, or will happen. The   
   starting context for this is a space elevator, but it applies to   
   many things *in the context of science fiction*. Another fine   
   example is 3D TV or holograms. Yes, there are people trying to get   
   there, but they don’t exist in *any* sense as their science fiction   
   promise. You are being intellectually dishonest when you pretend   
   there is no difference.   
      
   > >Pointing to experimental aircraft is like pointing to cold fusion.   
   > >They are a *fiction* in the real world. Your case is not made when   
   > >youre deliberately being intellectually dishonest like this.   
   > >   
   >   
   > Do you know the FAA definition of 'experimental aircraft'?   
      
   No. I know what I see on the road and in the air. I do not see   
   *any* flying cars anywhere I look. The burden of evidence is on   
   *you* to show they exist beyond some ill-conceived R&D efforts.   
      
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