XPost: sci.space.policy, sci.physics, sci.astro   
      
   In sci.physics Doc O'Leary  wrote:   
   > For your reference, records indicate that   
   > Fred J. McCall  wrote:   
   >   
   >> So your whole 'argument' amounts to a chicken/egg thing.  You said   
   >> there were no flying cars in the 'real world'.  Now you want to move   
   >> the goal posts.   
   >   
      
   3D televisions can be purchased at Best Buy, Amazon, and many other   
   retailers.   
      
   You can buy greeting cards with holograms.   
      
   Have you been living in a cave?   
      
      
   > No, I’m saying that just because someone is *trying* to make a   
   > thing happen doesn’t mean it has happened, or will happen.  The   
   > starting context for this is a space elevator, but it applies to   
   > many things *in the context of science fiction*.  Another fine   
   > example is 3D TV or holograms.  Yes, there are people trying to get   
   > there, but they don’t exist in *any* sense as their science fiction   
   > promise.  You are being intellectually dishonest when you pretend   
   > there is no difference.   
   >   
   >> >Pointing to experimental aircraft is like pointing to cold fusion.   
   >> >They are a *fiction* in the real world.  Your case is not made when   
   >> >you?re deliberately being intellectually dishonest like this.   
   >> >   
   >>   
   >> Do you know the FAA definition of 'experimental aircraft'?   
   >   
   > No.  I know what I see on the road and in the air.  I do not see   
   > *any* flying cars anywhere I look.  The burden of evidence is on   
   > *you* to show they exist beyond some ill-conceived R&D efforts.   
      
   Yep, living in a cave.   
      
   It appears you also have not seen any 3D televisons or holograms even   
   though such are fairly common these days.   
      
      
      
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