XPost: sci.space.policy, sci.physics   
   From: invalid@invalid.com   
      
   On 10/12/2016 7:06 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:   
   > Serigo  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 10/12/2016 4:12 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:   
   >>> Serigo  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 10/11/2016 11:01 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:   
   >>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> In sci.physics Jeff Findley  wrote:   
   >>>>>>> In article , invalid@invalid.com says...   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> there is no reason for man to go to Mars.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Opinion.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> It is rocks and sand in a vaccum.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> no food, no water, no air.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> There is a bit of water on Mars (e.g. polar regions) and again a CO2   
   >>>>>>> atmosphere.  Food could be grown.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>> Not without horrendous effort.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>   
   >>>>> For some small value of 'horrendous'.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> send a robot.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>> Been there, done that.  They're s-l-o-w and return very little science   
   >>>>>>> compared to a manned mission.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Wrong.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> No, he's right and we know that for a fact.   
   >>>>>   
   >>   
   >>>>>> Robots return whatever science they are built to explore and work 24/7   
   >>>>>> without need for food, air, water, potty breaks, or sleep.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> And humans working ordinary shifts can cover more ground and   
   >>>>> accomplish more in a few weeks than your toaster can do in years.   
   >>>>> Humans can also deal with things 'outside' the program by reacting to   
   >>>>> the data as they collect it.   
   >>   
   >>>> silly.   
   >>>>  remember that any human on Mars must stay below surface 95% of the   
   >>>> time to avoid radiation.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Bullshit, troll.  Shielding vehicles is easy.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> cant use lead, must use water.  OR bury it below ground.   
   >>   
   >   
   > Don't need lead.  Don't need water.  Don't need to bury it.   
      
   so how do you shield it ?   
      
   you are uninformed.  lots of NASA studies out that prove you have to be   
   burried about 20 foot down.   
      
   and stay there 95% of the time   
      
      
   >   
   >>   
   >> try to keep up.   
   >>   
   >   
   > Try to pull my head out.   
   >   
   >   
      
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