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   Serigo to Fred J. McCall   
   Re: A smaller, faster version of the Spa   
   13 Oct 16 13:28:43   
   
   XPost: sci.space.policy, sci.physics   
   From: invalid@invalid.com   
      
   On 10/13/2016 9:53 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote:   
   > Serigo  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 10/12/2016 7:41 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:   
   >>> Serigo  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 10/12/2016 2:46 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:   
   >>>>> JF Mezei  wrote:   
      
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> rong, it is not a true or false game.   
   >>   
   >   
   > Of course it is.  It's either a vacuum or it isn't.   
      
   wrong, pupa go google Torr   
      
   >   
   >>   
   >> Compaired to Earths atmosphere, Mars is more like outter space, a vacuum.   
   >>   
   >   
   > Not the definition of 'vacuum'.  By your definition Creed, Colorado,   
   > is a 'vacuum', since the atmospheric pressure there is closer to space   
   > than it is to sea level.   
      
   liar   
      
   >   
   >>   
   >>   
      
      
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> name any of them.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Water, oxygen,   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> they brought that with them, and the tech to produce it.   
   >>   
   >   
   > Well, of course they brought tools, you ignorant dipshit.  They're not   
   > going to bring it all from Earth.   
      
   they can't make it on Mars, shit for brains.   
      
   >   
   >>   
   >>> various other gases,   
   >>   
   >> like Nitrogen... which they also brought with them.   
   >>   
   >   
   > But not all of it.   
      
   yes all of it.   
      
   >   
   >>   
   >>> including methane for rocket fuel.   
      
   >> they do not need rocket fuel, because they do not need to go back to Earth.   
   >>   
   >   
   > But the ships do.   
      
   no they dont.   
      
   >   
   >>   
   >>> As a colony gets bigger it will start to pay to locally produce   
   >>> metals.   
   >>   
   >>from melting down old supply rocketships,   
   >> it is more cost effective to leave them there as scrap.   
      
   >   
   > Wrong. I see why you think colonization can't work.  You think they'll   
   > do it in the stupidest way possible.   
      
   guessing again I see, and totally wrong again   
      
   >   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>> Try and keep up.   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> There will be some things that will probably have to be   
   >>>>> imported for a very long time.  There will have to be some new   
   >>>>> industrial processes, since there will be no coal.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> no need, no reason to go to mars.   
   >>>>   
      
   >>> If humanity listened to trolls like you we'd still be huddled in caves   
   >>> eating bushes.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> you missed out on the moon exploration, and you have failed to keep up   
   >> with NASA R&D on what is required for Mars.   
   >>   
   >   
   > Jesus, but you're stupid.   
      
   Jesus ain't going to help you.   
      
      
   >   
   >>   
   >> You keep stating the silly stuff.  Like a stoner going to drift up and   
   >> live the big life on Mars like in the movies.   
      
   >> Get  Real.   
   >> or go post in     sci.fiction.for.dummies   
   >>   
   >   
   > You're crossposting to a sci.space newsgroup, you ignorant twat.  Go   
   > educate yourself.  Ad hominem trolling bullshit doesn't cut it.   
      
   ditto spaced-clod   
      
      
   >   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> In fact, is there any information on whether mining for minerals can be   
   >>>>>> done on mars ? Would there be veins of iron, bauxite, gold or some coal   
   >>>>>> wrth digging for ?   
   >>>>>>   
      
   >>>>> Sufficient amounts of various metals for initial development are   
   >>>>> available without having to do much in the way of mining.  Ores can   
   >>>>> just be scraped up off the surface.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> so you have been there ? or are you just makeing stuff up ?   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >>    
   >>   
   >   
   > Sure you aren't trying to make methane out of it?   
   >   
      
   go make your own methane.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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