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   Fred J. McCall to Serigo   
   Re: A smaller, faster version of the Spa   
   14 Oct 16 10:50:11   
   
   XPost: sci.space.policy, sci.physics   
   From: fjmccall@gmail.com   
      
   Serigo  wrote:   
      
   >On 10/13/2016 9:53 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote:   
   >> Serigo  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 10/12/2016 7:41 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:   
   >>>> Serigo  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 10/12/2016 2:46 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:   
   >>>>>> JF Mezei  wrote:   
   >   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> rong, it is not a true or false game.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Of course it is.  It's either a vacuum or it isn't.   
   >   
   >wrong, pupa go google Torr   
   >   
      
   Wrong, dipshit go get educated.   
      
   >   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>> Compaired to Earths atmosphere, Mars is more like outter space, a vacuum.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Not the definition of 'vacuum'.  By your definition Creed, Colorado,   
   >> is a 'vacuum', since the atmospheric pressure there is closer to space   
   >> than it is to sea level.   
   >   
   >liar   
   >   
      
   Look it up, you ignorant dipshit.   
      
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >   
   >   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> name any of them.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Water, oxygen,   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> they brought that with them, and the tech to produce it.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Well, of course they brought tools, you ignorant dipshit.  They're not   
   >> going to bring it all from Earth.   
   >   
   >they can't make it on Mars, shit for brains.   
   >   
      
   Of course they can.  It's not even that hard.  Just because YOU can't   
   do it doesn't mean others can't.  Hell, if that was the case we'd all   
   be sitting in our mother's basements and drooling.   
      
   >   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>>> various other gases,   
   >>>   
   >>> like Nitrogen... which they also brought with them.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> But not all of it.   
   >   
   >yes all of it.   
   >   
      
   Why, when it's so easy to produce in situ?   
      
   >   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>>> including methane for rocket fuel.   
   >   
   >>> they do not need rocket fuel, because they do not need to go back to Earth.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> But the ships do.   
   >   
   >no they dont.   
   >   
      
   Of course they do.  They can't fly on pixie dust, you know.   
      
   >   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>>> As a colony gets bigger it will start to pay to locally produce   
   >>>> metals.   
   >>>   
   >>>from melting down old supply rocketships,   
   >>> it is more cost effective to leave them there as scrap.   
   >   
   >>   
   >> Wrong. I see why you think colonization can't work.  You think they'll   
   >> do it in the stupidest way possible.   
   >>   
   >   
   >guessing again I see, and totally wrong again   
   >   
      
   No guess at all.  I just look at what you suggest; stupidest way   
   possible.   
      
   >   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Try and keep up.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> There will be some things that will probably have to be   
   >>>>>> imported for a very long time.  There will have to be some new   
   >>>>>> industrial processes, since there will be no coal.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> no need, no reason to go to mars.   
   >>>>>   
   >   
   >>>> If humanity listened to trolls like you we'd still be huddled in caves   
   >>>> eating bushes.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> you missed out on the moon exploration, and you have failed to keep up   
   >>> with NASA R&D on what is required for Mars.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Jesus, but you're stupid.   
   >   
   >Jesus ain't going to help you.   
   >   
      
   Well, you're evidence that he can't fix stupid.   
      
   >   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>> You keep stating the silly stuff.  Like a stoner going to drift up and   
   >>> live the big life on Mars like in the movies.   
   >   
   >>> Get  Real.   
   >>> or go post in     sci.fiction.for.dummies   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> You're crossposting to a sci.space newsgroup, you ignorant twat.  Go   
   >> educate yourself.  Ad hominem trolling bullshit doesn't cut it.   
   >   
   >ditto spaced-clod   
   >   
      
   tritto shit-clod   
      
   >   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> In fact, is there any information on whether mining for minerals can be   
   >>>>>>> done on mars ? Would there be veins of iron, bauxite, gold or some coal   
   >>>>>>> wrth digging for ?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >   
   >>>>>> Sufficient amounts of various metals for initial development are   
   >>>>>> available without having to do much in the way of mining.  Ores can   
   >>>>>> just be scraped up off the surface.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> so you have been there ? or are you just makeing stuff up ?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>>    
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Sure you aren't trying to make methane out of it?   
   >>   
   >   
   >go make your own methane.   
   >   
      
   go eat your own raw material, troll.   
      
      
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    truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."   
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