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   jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com to Vaughn Simon   
   Re: A smaller, faster version of the Spa   
   15 Oct 16 02:23:26   
   
   XPost: sci.space.policy, sci.physics   
      
   In sci.physics Vaughn Simon  wrote:   
   > On 10/14/2016 7:28 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:   
   >> In sci.physics Vaughn Simon  wrote:   
   >>> > On 10/14/2016 5:14 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:   
   >>>> >> The smallest nuclear power plant in the US generates 479 MW, so a 50 MW   
   >>>> >> reactor would be tiny by comparison.   
   >>> > Errr, do you mean the smallest commercial utility nuclear power plant?   
   >>> > Because there are many nuclear reactors in the USA that are smaller than   
   >>> > 479 MW.   
   >> Yes.   
   >>   
   >> I'm talking about things in production.   
   >   
   > So naval nuclear power plants are not "in production"?   
      
   Navy reactors are for the most part built for each ship it is to   
   power, but no, that is not what I meant.   
      
   Production as in connected to the grid.   
      
   >>> > So really?  You are saying that that a 50 MW nuke plant is "tiny" in   
   >>> > comparison to a utility-sized power plant, so it must therefore be   
   >>> > doable for us to build a MERE 50 MW plant on Mars?  Really?   
   >> I never said it could be done, would be afforadble, practical, or   
   >> anything like that.   
   >>   
   >> What I am saying is a 50 MW plant is tiny in comparison to what runs   
   >> the real world.   
   >>   
   >>> > Well hell, the ISS is "tiny" in comparison to NASA's massive Vehicle   
   >>> > Assembly Building, so constructing the ISS should have been a fucking   
   >>> > snap for NASA.   
   >   
   >> Irrelevant.   
   >   
   > Precisely!  Your comparison between a utility-sized nuclear power plant   
   > and your proposed 50 MW plant is similarly irrelevant.   
      
   I proposed nothing.   
      
   What I am saying is that turning dirt into structural steel or   
   structural aluminum takes a lot of energy which you are NOT going   
   to get from wind or solar on Mars.   
      
      
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