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   Fred J. McCall to jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com   
   Re: A smaller, faster version of the Spa   
   18 Oct 16 07:31:44   
   
   XPost: sci.space.policy, sci.physics   
   From: fjmccall@gmail.com   
      
   jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:   
      
   >In sci.physics Serigo  wrote:   
   >> On 10/17/2016 8:50 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote:   
   >>> Serigo  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 10/16/2016 8:21 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:   
   >>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> is that it ? start small and grow them ?? anything else ?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> your really not into this Mars thing are you.   
   >>>   
   >>>>>> There is no such thing as small when talking about a steel prduction   
   >>>>>> facility carried in a rocket. The smallest excavator John Deere makes   
   >>>>>> weighs about 2 tons.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>   
   >>>>> So about 2% of the cargo lift to Mars of one of Musk's colonization   
   >>>>> rockets, then.  And he's talking about launching around 10 of those   
   >>>>> per 100 people going to the colony.  Hardly a big deal.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> in your imagination, "no big deal"   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> It's not.   
   >>   
   >> yes it is, nothing exists yet, and you say "no big deal"   
   >>   
   >> you are dominated by your imagination.   
   >>   
   >> I'm sorry you think 2% is a big deal, but it's just not.   
   >>   
   >> 2% of nothing, is still nothing.   
   >   
   >That is 2% for 1 very tiny landscaper sized excavator.   
   >   
   >How many excavators are needed to mine ice, iron, calcium deposits, if   
   >they exist, aluminum, rock, etc. and dig foundatiions for buildings?   
   >   
   >How many trucks to haul the stuff the excavators dig up?   
   >   
   >How many trucks to haul the finished products?   
   >   
   >How many trucks to haul the waste products away?   
   >   
   >How many trucks to haul the building materials?   
   >   
   >How many rock crushing machines to crush all the stuff dug up?   
   >   
      
   Now figure out what you can ship with 1,000 tons of cargo for every   
   hundred people you send...   
      
      
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