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   krw to bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net   
   Re: Ion drive for aircraft imminent.   
   01 Nov 16 22:01:00   
   
   XPost: sci.physics, sci.space.policy, sci.electronics.design   
   From: krw@nowhere.com   
      
   On Tue, 1 Nov 2016 14:27:51 -0400, bitrex   
    wrote:   
      
   >On 11/01/2016 11:51 AM, John Larkin wrote:   
   >> On Tue, 1 Nov 2016 11:09:13 -0400, "Robert Clark"   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> Nanotechnology makes possible an "ion drive" for air vehicles analogous to   
   >>> the famous ion drive of NASA's deep space probes:   
   >>>   
   >>> Carbon nanotubes for "Ionic Wind" Craft or "Ionocraft".   
   >>> Clark R*   
   >>> Department of Mathematics, Widener University, USA   
   >>> Review Article   
   >>> Volume 1 Issue 2 / Received Date: September 26, 2016 / Published Date:   
   >>> October 20, 2016   
   >>> Abstract   
   >>> Peter Thiel of the Founders Fund once famously said, "We wanted flying   
   cars,   
   >>> and we got 140 characters."But nanotechnology now does make possible the   
   >>> long desired flying cars. It's a different propulsion method though than   
   >>> propellers or jets however. It's propulsion by electric fields known as   
   >>> electrohydrodynamic propulsion (EHD). It works by ionizing air then using   
   >>> electric fields to propel the charged air molecules rearward, thus   
   producing   
   >>> thrust. It's quite analogous to the famous space ion drive of NASA. EHD has   
   >>> been known at least since the sixties. Its problem is, as with ion drive,   
   >>> the thrust is so low. So far the EHD craft have not been able to lift both   
   >>> themselves and their power supplies. The ones made so far leave the power   
   >>> supply on the ground and connect to the craft through power cables. But the   
   >>> equations of EHD suggest the thrust for the power required gets larger for   
   >>> thinner ionizing wires. In fact if the wires are at the nanoscale then this   
   >>> important thrust-to-power ratio can be a hundred times higher than for the   
   >>> craft constructed so far. This would be enough to lift the craft and the   
   >>> power supply. This research is to prove what the mathematics suggests. Note   
   >>> that if it works then all propeller and rotor driven craft become obsolete.   
   >>> Also, intermediate range automobile travel would be taken over by the EHD   
   >>> craft, so a large proportion of carbon-emissions would be eliminated,   
   >>> replaced by this zero-emission travel method. In regards to space   
   >>> propulsion, since EHD is so similar to ion drive, using components at the   
   >>> nanoscale may also work to improve the thrust of ion drive. This would be   
   >>> important to shortening the flight times of spacecraft using such drives.   
   >>> This is important not just for robotic spacecraft but also satellites that   
   >>> use such ion drives to reach their final GEO destinations. As it is now,   
   the   
   >>> ion drives used have such low thrust it takes months for such satellites to   
   >>> reach GEO, resulting in millions of dollars of lost revenue to the   
   satellite   
   >>> companies. Being able to increase the thrust of these drives would reduce   
   >>> the flight time, and therefore reduce this lost revenue.   
   >>> Keywords: Electrohydrodynamic propulsion; Carbon nanotubes; Nanowires;   
   Ionic   
   >>> wind; Ionocraft; Plasma drive   
   >>> https://medwinpublishers.com/NNOA/volume.php?volumeId=23&issueId=63   
   >>>   
   >>> Bob Clark   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Post again when Chevy dealerships are selling flying cars.   
   >>   
   >> Carbon nanotubes are the idiotic craze of the day, and are pretty much   
   >> useless so far. As electron or ion emitters, they quickly destroy   
   >> themselves.   
   >>   
   >> And they still don't violate conservation of energy. Where is all the   
   >> zero-pollution power going to come from?   
   >   
   >There will be several plug-in prime movers available, initially you'll   
   >have your choice of H2O hydrogen booster, Hendershot generator, or   
   >zero-point reactor at product launch.   
      
   I've been waiting for someone to start selling nano-technology   
   Hendershot generators.  Sounds like a good business.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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