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   eripe to MrAnderson   
   Re: Particles-atoms hybrids   
   22 Jan 17 05:41:13   
   
   From: eripe.dk@gmail.com   
      
   On Saturday, January 21, 2017 at 6:47:17 PM UTC+7, MrAnderson wrote:   
   > Mr Fergerson - interesting story, I honestly didn't know anything about this   
   coronium thing.   
   > On muonium, my bad, I thought it's electrons that get replaced by muons   
   here, not protons... So what would be density of muonium? Has anyone   
   calculated that?    
   > Let's say Yayland Weylani Company develeped Polarized Magneto-Electric   
   Stabilizers (tm) and stabilization problem is already solved ;)   
   > On materials used - I think it's possible to build something that big with   
   todays materials, Akron and Hindenburg were both around 240 meters long and   
   were built with metals known in 1930s, on first World War there were some made   
   with wood, they were    
   more than 100m in lenght IIRC, so I think it's entirely possible to build such   
   beast with todays materials.   
   > The foam idea is kinda fine, but it's very possible that mass of the paint   
   and foam by itself will be to big to be effective, add something to connect   
   all "bricks"... It may be problematic. Also, diferrent shapes make need for   
   big structural strenght,    
   I am not sure how would it work out.   
   > Eripe - that's what I thought about steam, it just sound to good to just put   
   hot steam in here :v   
   > Thanks for the link, seems that foam can be much closer than my novel   
   airship gas... Damn, I really prefer flying sausages and cigars :v   
   > Today I am gonna check orientational specifications of my airship if it was   
   filled with vacuum (sounds strange) in this foam.   
      
      
      
   I have an idea, Diz iz Zuper Nutz; you could fill it with photons. If you have   
   a perfectly reflective inner side, the pressure from the light would keep it   
   inflated with a vacuum inside.   
      
   Radiation P = 0,5*p*c   
   P = 0,5 * 1E5 Pa * 3E8 m/s = 15E12 or 15 TW/m2.   
      
   Im not sure how to calculate how much energy must be fed in there to build   
   that pressure up. Say the mirror is 99,999999999 % reflective, then you have   
   to supply 15 W/m2 to make up for the losses at 15 TW/m2. I suppose that much   
   light would inflate it    
   then, but how long would it take?   
      
   Once you know the energy, you can find the mass from E = m c^2   
      
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