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|    eripe to nu...@bid.nes    |
|    Re: Particles-atoms hybrids    |
|    22 Jan 17 17:14:35    |
      From: eripe.dk@gmail.com              On Monday, January 23, 2017 at 3:45:07 AM UTC+7, nu...@bid.nes wrote:       > On Sunday, January 22, 2017 at 5:41:14 AM UTC-8, eripe wrote:       >       > (zeppelins filed with x, where x is lighter than hydrogen)       >       > > I have an idea, Diz iz Zuper Nutz; you could fill it with photons. If you       > > have a perfectly reflective inner side, the pressure from the light would       > > keep it inflated with a vacuum inside.       >       > The reflector would only have to be perfect at one wavelength.              Do we need Doc-Smithian technomacis Perfect Reflector fields, or will suitable       stacked coatings do the trick?              I have no idea what any of those words mean :P              >       > > Radiation P = 0,5*p*c       > > P = 0,5 * 1E5 Pa * 3E8 m/s = 15E12 or 15 TW/m2.       > >       > > Im not sure how to calculate how much energy must be fed in there to build       > > that pressure up. Say the mirror is 99,999999999 % reflective, then you       have       > > to supply 15 W/m2 to make up for the losses at 15 TW/m2. I suppose that       much       > > light would inflate it then, but how long would it take?       > >       > > Once you know the energy, you can find the mass from E = m c^2       >        Also, if the envelope is controllably deformable, it's an EMdrive!              This would explain how those space faring blimbs work on              >       >       > Dr. HotSalt              Anyway, was thinking a bit more about the amount of energy needed.       So if the ship is 60 meters wide, that means in one second a photon will       bounce c/(2*60)=694 times of one side of the ship, so my 15 W/m2 input becomes       10400 W/m2.       I need to get to 15E12, so it will take 15E12/10400 = 400 hours to inflate it       with 15 watts/m2, with perfect reflection. 15 W in 400 hours is 21,6 MJ/m2, is       basically zero mass added. Also not too terrible in regard to blowing up.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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