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|    Mikkel Haaheim to MrAnderson    |
|    Re: My Sci-Fi setting    |
|    27 Feb 17 13:24:20    |
      From: mikkelhaaheim@gmail.com              On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 12:01:11 AM UTC+1, MrAnderson wrote:                     > There is star of Sun type, it has one main rocky planet, the Arda, and two       other habitable rocks, with one being a bit closer to star than Arda and       second one being a bit further. In My first ideas all three planets were in       triangle, and distances        between them were always the same. First question, is it possible to work and       be stable for billions of years?              Unlikely. There are only two means for objects in orbit to remain in fixed       positions relative to one another: either they are actually in the same       (circular, not non-circular elliptical) orbit, or there is a Lagrange       relationship (at least two would need        to be stationed at Lagrange points, while the third is either also positioned       at a Lagrange point for another body -perhaps the gas giant you were speaking       of- or would serve as the second body anchor for the Lagrange points). It is       very unlikely that        these planets would remain stable at the Lagrange points for such an extended       time, unless (as Mark indicated) they were placed there by an advanced alien       species. As for the co-orbital arrangement, once you add the gas giant, this       arrangement would no        longer remain stable. The arrangement itself would be virtually impossible       without intervention.       That said, things become rather more flexible if the arrangement were just       NEAR same distance. This brings up a question I have: when you say that the       distances are always the same, does this mean that the respective distances       don't vary, or does it mean        they are all equidistant from one another? I ask because you describe their       orbital arrangement as a triangle... which is ALWAYS the arrangment of any       three bodies in space, unless if they just happen to line up perfectly. So,       why do you specify this? Do        you intend that the arrangement is equilateral? Or is it just to point out the       nature of their fixed relative position?              > The system also has at least one gas giant with moons, and some other       bodies, but that's to be designed in future.               The gas giant could exlpain the triangular relationship by explaining that the       planets are located at three of the Lagrange points of the gas giant.       Actually, this arrangement COULD possibly occur naturally under such       conditions. I have seen an animation        of the trojan asteroids, and it was interesting to me to observe that the       asteroids were naturally forming a triangle anchored at the Lagrange points.       This suggests to me the possibility that, given enough time and the correct       asteroidal composition, the        asteroids could eventually form into moons or planetoids.              > can stars be around half light year distant from each other and have       planetary systems and be stable?              I don't see why not. The only concern is whether there would be enough mass       for planets to aggregate, since the stars would use up most of the nebular       mass available at the stars' formation.              > Human race travelled to the two other planets in its system,              Earth humans or Arda humans?              > colonized them, and for around 100 years there was struggle with       establishing colony, some riots, sovereignity of colonies etc. In meantime       expeditions were sent to other systems, and colonization started in them.       Colonized planets were used for mining        by Arda, and that made colonists very unhappy. (here comes the need for some       McGufinnite I think, because who would want to ship some ordinary metals        through lightyears of cold space, that's just too expensive)               Think more in terms of shipping products and produce (etc).        Different planets will have different climates, different soil compositions,       different blends of elements and minerals, etc. This means that similar crops       will very likely have VERY different flavours, as will other natural products.       To give you an        example that is closer to home: dairy products such as milk differ greatly       between different regions, even within the same country. Dairy from Isigny,       France, for example is considered by chefs as the single best, worldwide... I       can personally attest        that its flavour is far superior to any US dairy product. Similarly, the       flavour of wines depends not so much upon the genetics of the grape vine, but       the soil it grows in. Two identical grapes (genetically) will have very       different flavours depending        upon where in the world they were grown.       Outside of these natural regional (or planetary) differences that can not be       duplicated elsewhere, there is also the factor of different kinds of artisanal       products. Different regions typically develop different products as a factor       of culture. In a        global (or systemic) economy, appreciations for products from different       cultures is routinely cultivated. Of course, there is also the factor of       regional (planetary) specialisation: different cultures in shared trade       environments tend to specialise the        products they make, encouraging trade for products, even though the same       products COULD be made by both parties.                     > Interstellar vehicles are mostly powered by antimatter, but there are some       odd ships powered by Bussard Ramjets, laser sails or even blackholes (what do       you think about last one?).               Limited to extremely advanced societies, but a source of excellent potential.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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