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|    Damien Valentine to MrAnderson    |
|    Re: My Sci-Fi setting    |
|    02 Mar 17 15:45:58    |
      From: valends3@gmail.com              On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 6:31:28 PM UTC-5, MrAnderson wrote:       > I didn't know somebody already used "Arda" as name for science fictional       planet, but keep in my mind that my one is named like this because it actually       is rhe same Arda as it was in Tolkien's works. Here comes the time to explain       the connection of my        universe to LOTR: In Tolkien's books, almost all action takes place on west       part of a big continent. In Silmarrilion part of it gets flooded and stays the       Middle Earth with Hobbits, Mordor, Rings and stuff. The part that is on far       east is called Rhun,        but it is never stated what's behind it.              I feel obliged to warn you that if you want to make any money from this -- and       possibly even if you don't -- you need to disconnect from the Tolkien estate's       copyrights. They have more and better lawyers than you do.              And frankly, there's no reason to insert space-Ents and space-Uruk-Hai and who       knows what else. Your setting doesn't rely on them *at all*. In fact, if I'm       reading you correctly, they've all gone extinct thousands of years before the       action of your story        begins.              Finally, if the western half of Middle-Earth disappears -- for some reason       which you'd need to explain, because that's very clearly not what happens at       the end of the LotR novels -- the Haradrim and the Men of Rhun are not going       to say: "must be an        asteroid strike, let's invent a space program". They're going to say: "those       damned meddling Valar just pulled another Numenor, serves those snooty       Men-of-the-West right". And then keep on riding elephants and persecuting Blue       Wizards, like they've        always done.              What would make more sense is for some kind of...for lack of a better word,       Tolkien-worshippers...to found a colony which then gets cut off from greater       human civilization. (Maybe they cut themselves off on purpose? Your call.)       Because they're a Tolkien        cult, each community starts its own crude surgery or eugenics programs to       physically resemble whichever LotR race best embodies its values. The people       who value profit and engineering become fake-Dwarves, the people who value       physical and martial        strength become fake-Orcs, the people who value being pretty and thinking       they're better than everyone else become fake-Elves, and so on. And then they       have wars over "magical rings" and "mithril armor" and so on, which are       actually the last surviving        artifacts of the spacefaring civilization they were cut off from, however many       centuries ago.              And then you've pretty much recreated the plot of SM Stirling's "Dies the       Fire", but hey, that's the nature of this particular beast.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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