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   Fred J. McCall to jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com   
   Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed elect   
   05 Jul 17 11:11:31   
   
   XPost: sci.space.policy, sci.physics, sci.electronics.design   
   From: fjmccall@gmail.com   
      
   jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:   
      
   >In sci.physics Jeff Findley  wrote:   
   >> In article , jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com   
   >> says...   
   >>> > Landing gear, and all other structural moving parts, is surely another   
   >>> > area on aircraft which could use this technology.  Landing gear make up   
   >>> > a significant percentage of an aircraft's total dry mass, so this would   
   >>> > be a likely candidate for shape optimization and 3D printing.   
   >>>   
   >>> Again, you are talking about niche applications and landing gear are not   
   >>> that big a part of an aircrafts weight.   
   >>   
   >> From Wikipedia (because I don't have time to look up a "better" source):   
   >>   
   >>    The undercarriage is typically 4-5% of the takeoff mass and can   
   >>    even reach 7%.   
   >>   
   >> That's significant in aerospace.   
   >>   
   >>> >> Have you ever looked at the interior structures of an aircraft?   
   >>> >   
   >>> > Yes, many times.  I've got a b.s. in aerospace engineering, so I know   
   >>> > the basics.  Many of our customers are aerospace, so I have to   
   >>> > understand the domain.   
   >>> >   
   >>> >> 3D printing is, and always will be, a niche manufacturing method.   
   >>> >>   
   >>> >> Handy at times, but certainly not a world changer.   
   >>> >   
   >>> > This is quite short sighted.  I'm sure the same was said about   
   >>> > composites when they were in their infancy.  Today it would be quite   
   >>> > hard (i.e. likely impossible) to point to something commercial that   
   >>> > flies and carries people commercially that has absolutely zero composite   
   >>> > content.   
   >>>   
   >>> An irrelevant red herring to the subject of 3D printing. There are a HUGE   
   >>> number of different composite materials out there and it has taken well   
   >>> over half a century for most aircraft to have even a small fraction of   
   >>> composite materials in their construction.   
   >>>   
   >>> Note the word "most".   
   >>   
   >> How is an example of the adoption of new materials/manufacturing   
   >> processes not applicable to 3D printing which is another example of the   
   >> same thing?  Are you deliberately being intellectually dishonest?   
   >   
   >Well, if you want to compare composite materials and 3D printing, composite   
   >materials have been around for over a half century and the usage is still   
   >trivial compared to traditional materials in just about all products other   
   >than camper shells and ski boats.   
   >   
      
   Jesus, get back to your trailer park until you gain some experience in   
   the real world.   
      
   >   
   >So we can expect 3D printers to still be niche in 50 years.   
   >   
      
   Well, YOU can no doubt expect that, but you're pretty well known for   
   having your head up and locked.   
      
   >>> > I can say that shape optimization coupled with 3D printing is one of the   
   >>> > "bleeding edge" topics in my industry.  It's really no secret, you can   
   >>> > surely Google hundreds of articles on the topic.  I really can't go into   
   >>> > further details, but my profession is in writing engineering software,   
   >>> > so I ought to know.   
   >>>   
   >>> Whoopee. It is still niche.   
   >>   
   >> You're posting to sci.space groups.  It's quite significant to the   
   >> aerospace industry.  If you don't like it, find another group to pester.   
   >   
   >I didn't choose the groups and it is being posted to other groups as   
   >well.   
   >   
      
   You didn't?  Do you not know how your newsreader works, or what?   
      
      
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