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   Fred J. McCall to jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com   
   Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed elect   
   07 Jul 17 02:09:14   
   
   XPost: sci.space.policy, sci.physics, sci.electronics.design   
   From: fjmccall@gmail.com   
      
   jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:   
      
   >In sci.physics krw@notreal.com wrote:   
   >> On Thu, 6 Jul 2017 16:34:29 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>In sci.physics David Mitchell  wrote:   
   >>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:   
   >>>>> In sci.physics David Mitchell  wrote:   
   >>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Does anyone care about a shape optimized 4 slice toaster or filing   
   cabinet?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Yes.  I do.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> If any significant number of items in your house are fabricated, it   
   makes sense   
   >>>>>> to use as few raw materials as possible, so, for example, it would make   
   sense to   
   >>>>>> honeycomb the inside of a knife handle, since it would still be strong   
   enough,   
   >>>>>> and would allow you to keep a gram or two of material "in the pot" for   
   other   
   >>>>>> projects.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Ditto everything you make.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Nonsense; the items in one's house are based on price not how elegantly   
   >>>>> it was produced.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> It makes no sense to honeycomb the inside of a knife handle as it would   
   >>>>> add no functionality and just increase the price.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> What price?   
   >>>   
   >>>The manufacturing cost which increases the retail sales price at the store.   
   >>   
   >> Manufacturing cost and sales price are only loosely correlated.   
   >   
   >For government projects mainly but not for consumer products.   
   >   
      
   No, for everything, actually.   
      
   >>>> It would reduce both the time to fabricate and feedstock used, albeit at   
   the   
   >>>> cost of slightly more complex software.   
   >>>   
   >>>Or you could injection mold it, as most knife handles are, for a fraction   
   >>>of the manufacturing cost of the honyecomb nonsense.   
   >>>   
   >>>Or you could stamp the whole thing out of metal for a fraction of the cost   
   >>>of the honyecomb nonsense.   
   >>>   
   >>>> They form the only metric which makes sense when talking about   
   fabricating objects.   
   >>>   
   >>>The only metric which makes sense for fabricating objects is the loaded   
   >>>manufacturing cost.   
   >>   
   >> Yes but not because of sales price, rather profit.   
   >   
   >profit = sales price - loaded manufacturing cost   
   >   
      
   True but irrelevant, since 'sales price' can be anything the   
   manufacturer cares to charge.   
      
      
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