On Thursday, July 20, 2017 at 9:24:19 PM UTC+1, k...@notreal.com wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 05:56:40 +0100, David Mitchell
> wrote:
>
> >krw@notreal.com wrote:
> >> On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 05:08:56 +0100, David Mitchell
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> krw@notreal.com wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 06:32:42 +0100, David Mitchell
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> krw@notreal.com wrote:
> >>>>>> On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 06:02:37 +0100, David Mitchell
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> krw@notreal.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 06:40:16 +0100, David Mitchell
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> krw@notreal.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 06:36:41 +0100, David Mitchell
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David Mitchell
wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David Mitchell wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David Mitchell wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David Mitchell wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, what "stuff" would people be making at home?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jewellry, utilities, tools, gadgets.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could you be any more vague?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Yes I could.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Things. People will make things. All of the things.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great, yet another techno nerd weenie who spends way too
much time watching
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Star Trek reruns.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bless. It's almost as though you imagine anyone give even
the tinest of fucks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what you think.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's almost as though you imagine I think puerile techno
nerds represent
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the average person.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I think you need to find a better insult - "techno nerd" is a
bit tautologous -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and I've never made any particular claim to represent anyone.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> How about pie-in-the-sky dreamer?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Like I've said before, most people can't be bothered to make
things as
> >>>>>>>>>>>> trivial as bread and biscuits.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, lots of people *do* make bread and biscuits; and a series
about baking was
> >>>>>>>>>>> one of the most popular UK programs for some time.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Watching is not making.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> True; but search for "The Great British Off effect".
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> "In the six years it has been on the air, “The Great British
Bake Off” has
> >>>>>>>>> fundamentally changed the way the British regard baking,
dessert-eating and even
> >>>>>>>>> their own culture of sweets. The “Bake Off Effect,” as it is
known, has
> >>>>>>>>> manifested in a resurgence in home baking, a noticeable increase
in the quality
> >>>>>>>>> of baked goods sold all over the country, and a growing number of
people
> >>>>>>>>> pursuing careers as professional pastry chefs."
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> "The Mary Berry effect: How the Great British Bake Off revived the
Women's Institute
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> WI membership reached 211,000 last year, its highest level
since the 1970s
> >>>>>>>>> 22,600 new members joined last year and 144 institutes were
created
> >>>>>>>>> Organisation's chairman said Great British Bakeoff 'inspired'
more women to
> >>>>>>>>> take up home baking"
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> "A recent survey from Waitrose revealed that baking is more
popular than ever,
> >>>>>>>>> with 19 per cent of people saying they now bake at least once a
week and nearly
> >>>>>>>>> half admitted to baking more than they did five years ago."
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Irrelevant. My wife watches a lot (way too much ;-) of cooking
shows
> >>>>>>>> and also does a lot of baking but not once has she ever made
anything
> >>>>>>>> that was on the TeeVee. She does make biscuits, on special
occasions,
> >>>>>>>> but not bread.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Ah yes, your one anecdote easily trumps my three data points.
> >>>>>>> Seriously? That's your counter? One person?
> >>>>>>> Wait! I know two people who bake! I win!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> No, stupid. The existence of cooking shows doesn't mean everyone is
> >>>>>> cooking. There are a couple of networks dedicated to buying homes but
> >>>>>> more people aren't buying houses every week.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Bread machines were once popular but are a total bust, these days.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I didn't say "everyone was baking".
> >>>>> I said "19 per cent of people saying they now bake at least once a
week and
> >>>>> nearly half admitted to baking more than they did five years ago."
> >>>>
> >>>> And half bought swamp land in Florida.
> >>>
> >>> Actual sales are noticeable up (as I quoted) in actual shops.
> >>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> As I keep, apparently, having to explain - I am talking about
*mature*
> >>>>>>> fabrication technology - something capable of working with multiple
materials.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It really would be nice if you could read. Mature doesn't matted if
> >>>>>> there is no need.
> >>>>> Let me try to put in easier terms for you: when nearly any form of
technology
> >>>>> first appears it is often expensive and limited, so only the "early
adopters"
> >>>>> pick it up. That market is sometimes enough to drive the development
of better,
> >>>>> cheaper devices; and as a consequence, more people buy them.
> >>>>> This cycle continues.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You know this to be true, right?
> >>>>
> >>>> It's obvious to any non-geek. They're not going to want it. Personal
> >>>> computers would have forever been a toy, except for one or two
> >>>> applications (financial and Internet). Video players biggest (by far)
> >>>> "app" was porn, then the Internet made that silly. 3D printing? WHo
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