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|    Message 45,252 of 45,986    |
|    Timothy Ellrod to Ian Sturdy    |
|    Re: Starship Radiator Mass (WARNING: Con    |
|    08 Oct 17 21:10:21    |
      From: timothyellrod@live.com              On Wednesday, October 4, 2017 at 3:39:10 PM UTC-4, Ian Sturdy wrote:       > All those radiators seem to be operating at rather low temperatures--if you       could run at 2900K instead of 1450K, you would only need 1/16th the radiator       area. I expect a beryllium phase-change radiator would operate close to its       boiling point of 2742K,        giving a sizable advantage. Given also that the molybdenum/lithium radiator is       four times the weight per heat capacity as the best radiators on that page,       which also operate at low temperatures, I would not be surprised if much       better were possible.       >               That thought did occur to me. Since the Mo/Li heat pipe radiator operates at       90.455% of lithium's boiling point, I ran the numbers for a radiator operating       at the same percentage of beryllium's boiling point (this came out to about       2,480 K). Needless        to say, that cut down on the radiator area by A LOT.              > I also expect your 20% estimate to be high--the trick in fusion engines       seems to be running the fusion reaction very far from any solid components.       The Firefly certainly seems to be designed around that, with the very narrow       body and conical tail        minimizing its apparent aspect. Moreover, 50% of your waste heat is x-rays,       which will not be completely absorbed by small thicknesses of matter.              True. I reduced it to 10%, which needless to say also reduced the radiator       area. Granted, that might STILL be too high, but I don't want to guess too       low either.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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